Quick question on ymgarl rules

[scorpio]

Hi, been away for a while but now I'm getting back into Nids with the rumours for a new update. Anyway, I digress. What I really want to now is how the dormant rules for ymgarls work exactly. It says any piece of area terrain but what counts as area terrain? Does a hill count as area terrain? Also, if you are playing with no terrain (unlikely but possible) does that mean that they can't come in? That seems wrong to me.

The reason I ask is that I am having a game on Tuesday against tau and necrons and I want a reliable combat unit to get in there and tie them up before the big gribblies arrive.
Thanks.

[Bot]

Before you start the game, agree with your opponent what terrain is area terrain and what is not.

[Raven]

If there's no area terrain, you'll have to either start them on the board or in normal reserves, since you can't actually elect a piece of area terrain to use Dormant.

[vecuu]

Area Terrain is defined on page 91 as terrain with a defined edge. While a Hill will typically have a defined edge, a lot of the simpler hills would be silly looking to give the automatic 5+ and make them count as difficult terrain.

Typically speaking, in our play group, we count hills as LoS obscuring (5+ cover to people behind it), but not as difficult terrain or as a 5+ to occupying units (unless they are obscured).

It's just important to go over terrain before the game starts, so there are no assumptions. I've never had an issue fielding my Ymgarls (of late I've been running two 8man broods).

[coredump]

Mar 30, 2013 15:22:22 GMT vecuu said:

Area Terrain is defined on page 91 as terrain with a defined edge.

Um, that is not the definition. All terrain in 40K has a defined edge.

[DukeMantis]

Ive never played a game where there wasnt at least two pieces of area terrain, tbh if you dont have at least that much you probably dont have much of a selection of terrain available which can hurt tyranids quite a bit. Remember a ruin with a base can help your Ymgarls, the base counts as area.