Best MC for my list!

[genestealerdude]

Hi there fellow gribblies!
I have been playing a list that people helped me with about a month back.

Now I seem to be having problems against a Dark Angels army with Salvo and Divination Librarian! (who also has a invul power field thingy) with Ravenwing back-up. Below is my list and C & C is helpful but I'm most interested in which MC to add to it (Flyrant, Trygon, Mawloc, Harpy).

1750pts

HQ
SwarmLord 280 walking

ELITES
x7 Ymgarls 161 dormant

TROOPS
14x Devgants in pod 180 deep strike

Tervigon w/TS,CAT 185 walking

4x Tyranid Warriors w/DS,ST,BS in pod 185 deep strike

5x 'Stealers w/BL 118 infiltrate

5x 'Stealers w/BL 118 infiltrate

30x Hormagaunts 180 walking

FAST ATTACK
4x Raveners w/ST,Spinefists 140 deep strike

Soooo, i have about 200pts left but could wiggle room for a flyrant. Anything advice would be really helpful!

Thanks in Advance
Peace

[retnab]

I'd drop the warriors' pod (is there any reason you're podding them rather than keeping them in the back lines?) and 20 more points somewhere for a flyrant IF he has a flyer. Otherwise just drop the pod and a Trygon Prime will fit well.

Edit: Also remember the BL is an upgrade that goes on top of one stealer so technically those are 4x stealers with BL at those points

[swarmy]

What kind of ravenwing backup? I've been getting into dark angels lately and I can tell you black knights and land speeder typhoons will shred MC's fairly efficiently. Also, be wary of using flying MC's with that many salvo shots; It is even rougher with divination helping. Grounding tests will be inevitable and I'm sure if he's doing what I think he is he will use a land raider crusader with that salvo shenanigans to put out 24 twin linked bolter shots if it's stationary. If I were him it would be a matter of grounding that tyrant then plasma melting it into oblivion (which that army is in no short supply of).

My vote would be on trygon *maybe* if you can find a really good spot to get him onto the board with enough threats to keep fire split.

[genestealerdude]

Cheers for the replies! Seems like its a Trygon of some sort then is best!

@ retnab As for the pod for the warriors, in the past when i've taken them on foot they never seem to do enough (rest run in shooting phase), people just pop em off with missile launchers due to lack of T4 target saturation in my list. Soo pod them with the rest of the beta strike and provide synapse, more of a chance of taking my opponents objective as well with troops.

As for the Dark Angels they are plain nasty with re-roll missies for overwatch and salvo and a tech priest fixing the LR grrr... Also swarmy, he is using the banner with heavy bolter razorbacks too, is that right to get salvo HB? Can he do that? And yes its almost that exact set up with dark knights lol and what is the range for the power field thingy as he used it as any unit within 12" range is that right too? Wow questions

Cheers guys!!!

[swarmy]

Mar 26, 2013 19:59:47 GMT genestealerdude said:

Cheers for the replies! Seems like its a Trygon of some sort then is best!

@ retnab As for the pod for the warriors, in the past when i've taken them on foot they never seem to do enough (rest run in shooting phase), people just pop em off with missile launchers due to lack of T4 target saturation in my list. Soo pod them with the rest of the beta strike and provide synapse, more of a chance of taking my opponents objective as well with troops.

As for the Dark Angels they are plain nasty with re-roll missies for overwatch and salvo and a tech priest fixing the LR grrr... Also swarmy, he is using the banner with heavy bolter razorbacks too, is that right to get salvo HB? Can he do that? And yes its almost that exact set up with dark knights lol and what is the range for the power field thingy as he used it as any unit within 12" range is that right too? Wow questions

Cheers guys!!!

Power field would be 3" out from the hull of whatever tank the librarian is in and I think the banner is 12" out... though it might be 6" (still memorizing that dex). It affects anything boltgun (storm bolters on terminators don't count, nor do storm bolters on tanks).

How effective has that techpriest been for him? I've been considering getting one to chuck in my land raider as auto-insurance.

[Ragged Warrior]

I would add another Tervigon. Might just be me, but it's another tough MC that could hold objectives and create saturation.

Regards,

[fleetofclaw]

Mar 27, 2013 16:02:24 GMT Ragged Warrior said:

I would add another Tervigon. Might just be me, but it's another tough MC that could hold objectives and create saturation.

Regards,

Yup. Dump the warriors add another tervy. Sorry but that's our best answer. Get some zoanthropes too. Roll up as much psychic powers as possible, enfeeble the living (please do not swear) out of his bikes, watch them go poof. TK dome the stuff he's salvo-ing and put it in his face, see how eager he is to have bolters and plasma bounce back at him.

DA is a tough matchup. Hunt that banner and libby down, and thank him for the 4++ while you tear the libby apart in CC.

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[Squire]

I'd be tempted to snipe at the banner guy with biovores. Alternatively if there are a load of marines clustered around a banner then a mawloc could do serious damage if it hits. I'd probably only feel confident fielding two of them though. That way you're likely to get one direct hit, then whatever is left has 12 T6 wounds to deal with in their next turn. At the very least it would give your other units some time to close the distance

[genestealerdude]

Right this is the revised list taking the tervigon advice, fun but better I think!

HQ
The Swarmlord
Parasite of Mortrex

ELITE
2x Zoanthropes
6x Ymgarls

TROOPS
30x Hormagaunts
5x Broodlord Brood w/ST, IA on BL
Tervigon w/1 power and TS
Tervigon w/1 power and TS
12x Termagants
14x Devgants w/Spore Pod

FAST ATTACK
4x Raveners w/ST

Any better guys? Or is it still going to get pasted, also would gargoyles help my list without removing the Hormagaunts? (aka the only thing I don't have is Biovores and Gargoyles) but I'm willing to invest in 'stealworkshop if they will dramatically improve my list!

Cheers for the help its mucho appreciated fellas!

[fleetofclaw]

Who is PoM riding with? What's your plan for him? You sort of need to build around him to get full use out of what is really just an expensive, w3, t4 jump infantry dude. He can be brutal in a psychic heavy list where you're slinging enfeeble everywhere and forcing T tests on 2s or 1s. I'd put him in a brood of gargoyles where no one is keen on throwing s8 firepower. Otherwise I'd leave him at home, you could take 20 fully tooled up gargoyles for his cost.

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[retnab]

I agree with Fleet, you've got 6 troop slots filled and 2 with Tervigons so you should have plenty of scoring units. I'd drop the H.Gaunts for the same number of Gargoyles or 20 and 6 more Devilgaunts, with a PoM joined to the Gargoyles. That pair can be one fun party.

[swarmy]

Mar 28, 2013 3:42:32 GMT retnab said:

I agree with Fleet, you've got 6 troop slots filled and 2 with Tervigons so you should have plenty of scoring units. I'd drop the H.Gaunts for the same number of Gargoyles or 20 and 6 more Devilgaunts, with a PoM joined to the Gargoyles. That pair can be one fun party.

My vote would be on just 30 gargoyles. You'd be surprised how fast 20 will die. You need to protect that guy really well to get some use out of that ability; If you see something close enough with a regular sergeant charge it and challenge that chump to pump out some rippers (obviously don't challenge anything in DA with a name, you will die horribly). I've found anything over 15 devourer termagants is usually points wasted because they will likely die horribly to flamers, blast templates, and bolter fire immediately following their arrival. They will serve that final purpose of diverting fire but that is usually all they have left. 14 should be able to mop the floor with a smaller bike unit or maim a 5-6 man terminator unit. You'd be spending a little under 200 points to kill around 200 points, or more, worth of infantry so it's usually worth it.