Anti-Ultramarine Army

[thegreatdevourer]

Hi all. I'm in a tournament and my next opponant is Ultramarines. Anyone got any tips on how to beat them, and what models should I use (BTW, only allowed 750 PTS)

My first idea was to use this;

HQ
the swarmlord

elites
2 X Zoanthropes
2 X Hive guard

troops
10 X genestealers
10 X Termegants w/ devourers and A-glands

By my maths, this works out to be exactly 750 points.
any changes will be welcome.
thanks in advance.

P.S. This army was originaly constructed to use against tank heavy armies, such as Imperial Guard.

[Monitor]

If you drop the Genestealers, and remove the Devourers and Adrenal Glands from the termagants, you can add a Tervigon as a troops choice, and give him his full loadout of psychic powers or crushing claws.

That'll spawn additional free scoring termagants for you during the game, provide another big monstrous creature full of T6 wounds, and provide psychic support.

I feel like the rest of your list is comprised of solid models which have a good role and work together.

I feel like your current troops selection is too expensive for each model, and bolters will just eat them alive too quickly for them to accomplish very much.

If a tervigon is a little much for your liking in 750 points (not everyone likes fielding them as some find them cheesy/ugly, though nobody argues their effectiveness)

Then take the same idea of what I have said and replace your current 260 pts of troops with 260 pts of inexpensive bodies will provide a good boost to your army in my opinion, for example that could be 10 devourer termagants and 30 additional vanilla ones, or simply 52 termagants.

I would be concerned in facing ultramarines at 750 pts that they had brought thunderfire cannons which will absolutely mulch your infantry targets though, so I would gravitate towards fitting many T6 or 3++ wounds into the list.

[infornography]

The Marine units to look out for are Thunder hammer/storm shield terminators, Land speeders, Thunderfire Cannons, Vindicators, and now, thanks to the death from the skies book, Storm Ravens.

At that point value he won't be able to field many of those though. If I were fielding marines at that point level, I'd take 5 hammernators and one HQ pick. If it is UM specifically, they might take Calgar to lead the hammernators. I'd personally take Vulkan but that would be more salamander than ultramarine. Then take a couple tac squads with drop pods and locator beacons. Reserve the hammernators and use the locator beacon on the first drop pod to teleport them in.

To deal with that I would take swarmy, a tyrant guard, a tervigon, and some devilgants. Swarmy will mostly deal with their deathstar. You may want to soften it up with some AP2 psyker powers from the terv and swarmy, but make sure swarmy at least saves a charge point for iron arm if he gets it.

Biomancy has two AP 2 psyker powers. Both will be a big help here.

The tac squads are not a big threat but not an ignorable one either. The devilgaunts will be good for forcing saves on whatever he's got.

If you can fit it, stick crushing claws and adrenal glands on the terv. That way gants can glance to death speeders and light vehicles and the Terv can smash apart land raiders and the like.

[coredump]

Here is my 750 list:

HT: 2xTLDev, wings, OA
2 HG
1 Zoan
10 gaunts
1 terv CClaws TS 2 powers total
1 biovore

I would gladly take on a termie list with that.

[paulochromis]

Mar 1, 2013 16:50:51 GMT coredump said:

Here is my 750 list:

HT: 2xTLDev, wings, OA
2 HG
1 Zoan
[glow=red,2,300]10 gaunts[/glow]
1 terv CClaws TS 2 powers total
1 biovore

I would gladly take on a termie list with that.

'gaunts or 'gants?

[rpricew]

^^ It looks like Termagants to make the Tervigon scoring.

[0800hell]

Against ultramarines this is what i would take in 750:

HQ
Tervigon
crushing claws AG TS 205 points

Elites
3 zoanathropes 180 points
3 zoanathropes 180 points

Troops
17 termagaunts 85 points
18 termagaunts 90 points