Nid vs chaos daemons 2000pts

[benseek24]

Hi

I am playing chaos daemons on the weekend - 2000pts

My army list is

Flying hive tyrant with hvc and adrenal glands

The swarmlord

Harpy

Trygon prime with adrenal glands

Tyrannofex with fleshborer hives

Carnifex with crushing claws and strangle thorn cannon

8 Genestealers with st and broodlord with st

6 standard genestealers

12 termagants with devourers

10 termagants with ts

15 termagants

10 hormagaunts with ts

Any advice, tips, etc. welcome

I have a zoanthrope
Two lictors
Three tyranid warriors
Three ripper bases
6 spore mines
3 raveners

Left two substitute in to the army list

Thanks

[megadeth321]

What do you plan to do? Your tactics?

[benseek24]

I plan on waiting for the daemons to come in then either slice them to piceies with hormies, swarmlord, stealers and Carnifex and shoot the rest back to the warp

[patsfan32]

If your opponent is loaded with flamers you are going to have a really bad day :/. Since most of your guys will have to huddle around the swarmlord or prime for synapse it is going to make all your little guys flamer bait. If the prime goes down, which if the opponent is smart hell get focused down turn 1, then you have to group up even more around the swarmlord. Unless you plan on attaching the tyranid prime to a unit other than swarmy. But considering you dont have any tyrant guard I'm assuming you are attaching the prime to swarmy? Do you know any of what your opponent is running?

Edit: just noticed I misread your trygon prime for a tyranid prime. Ya you are going to have some synapse problems because nothing can keep up with your flyrant and you swarmlord is a sitting duck with no guard. Him and the teygon prime will be wiped off very quickly leaving you with no reliable synapse.

[benseek24]

So maybe add warriors for hormies and gaunt squad

[benseek24]

Any ideas on defeating flamers?

[0800hell]

got rid of glands across the board give the tyranno acid spray(flamers great for daemons) take away all that and u shud be able to get some bare bones warriors. ask him if you can proxy tyrannofex as tervigon

[benseek24]

No more warriors left unfortunately. Might proxy tyrannofex for tervy and can only get 20pts for getting rid of adrenal glands everywhere if maths is correct.

[patsfan32]

to keep the flavor of your list as close as possible I came up with this as something you could try:

== HQ ==
Hive Tyrant (1) - Twin-Linked Devourer - Brainleech Worms, Heavy Venom Cannon, Wings, Psychic Scream, Leech Essence = 270 pts.
Swarmlord (1) = 280 pts.

== Elites ==
Doom Of Malan'tai Brood (130 pts.)
Doom Of Malan'tai (1) = 90 pts.
Mycetic Spore (1) = 40 pts.

== Troops ==
Termagant Brood (20) - Fleshborer = 100 pts.
Termagant Brood (140 pts.)
Termagant (10) - Devourer = 100 pts.
Mycetic Spore (1) = 40 pts.
Tyranid Warrior Brood (3) - Devourer, Scything Talons = 90 pts.
Broodlord Brood (130 pts.)
Broodlord (1) = 60 pts.
Genestealer (5) = 70 pts.

== Fast Attack ==
Harpy (1) - Cluster Spines, Twin-Linked Stranglethorn Cannon = 160 pts.

== Heavy Support ==
Tyrannofex (1) - Acid Spray, Stinger Salvo, Thorax Swarm - Dessicator Larvae = 250 pts.
Carnifex (1) - Crushing Claws, Stranglethorn Cannon, Frag Spines = 210 pts.
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, Trygon Prime Upgrade, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp = 240 pts.

== Total ==
2000 pts.

All you would need to do is cut some thing here and there to get the warriors in as backfield synapse, drop the hormys as 10 will do nothing at 2k points and proxy your zoan as a doom in a pod. This list will have enough templates to fry some daemons hopefully . Only thing I would say is to maybe think about dropping the claws on the fex. Hes toting long range weapon so I feel he is kind of caught between being a CC monster and a dakka platform so he wont really excell at either. You could just take full advantage of his range and use those 25 points elsewhere, however you could totally just roll as is. I love seeing lists with units I dont see often. I love making lists like this as well Heck you could also proxy the trygon as a mawloc for yet another template and throw in the raveners somehow. I think youd have enough by dropping the prime for mawloc and taking the claws off the carni. But ya play what ever flavor of your original list you want and let me know how it goes!

[benseek24]

Thanks I'll try your list out

[benseek24]

So the battle went like this
I put my squad of 20 termies, 3 warriors, carnifex, swarmlord and tyrannofex on the board.
He daemon striked in 17 pink horrors with the changeling and one with a special power in, a lord of change, 8 flamers with the blue scribes in their unit in.
The pink horrors then killed 14 termies and brought the carnifex down to one wound.
Then in my turn I killed five pink horrors. He took control of my carnifex with one of his guys and made my carnifex kill all the rest of my termies.
Then in his second turn he brought on a squad of 16 bloodletters, herald of tzeech, a bloodthirster and a soul grinder. His soul grinder killed my warriors and he also killed my carnifex. He brought my swarmlord down to three wounds and my tyrannofex down to five.
I then brought on my devilgaunts in a pod, my DoM in a pod, my stealers and brood lord, flyrant and my trygon prime. My prime made it in and so did my DoM but my termies DSMed and were put in the corner of the board. My flyrant missed with his shooting. My trygon killed two pink horrors, the DoM failed his psychic test and my opponent took control of my tyrannofex attempted to shoot my swarmlord but failed to wound it.
In his turn he brought on three bloodcrushers and a herald on a juganaught. He then killed my swarmlord and tyrannofex, vector striked my DoM bringing down to one wound and dealt one wound to my trygon. He then attempted to charge my trygon with his bloodletters but failed the charge and I killed one through overwatch.
In my turn I moved my stealers further into the board vector striked the bloodcrushers with my flyrant, shot the blood thirster but failed to wound it with my flyrant. My trygon killed two more pink horrors and my devilgaunts managed to hit the flying bloodthirster and deal a wound to it and then grounding it. I then assaulted the pink horrors with my trygon but only killed four pink horrors.

In his turn he charged his bloodletters into my trygon, assaulted my DoM with bloodcrushers and assaulted my devils with his bloodthirster. By overwatch I dealt two wounds to the bloodthirster who then killed my devil squad, the bloodcrushers obliterated my DoM and the bloodletters killed my trygon after I killed two more pink horrors. He had also flamed my stealer squad to death.
Then my harpy came on. It killed 8 bloodletters and my flyrant killed one pink horror and a few more bloodletters after my flyrant vector striked the bloodcrushers again, killing one.
His lord of change then vector striked my harpy and his bloodthirster vector stiked my flyrant. Then his flamers managed to deal one wound to my flyrant.
My flyrant then vector striked his changeling killing it and wiping out the pink horror squad. I then killed all but one bloodletter.
He then vector striked my flyrant with his bloodthirster, killing it.
I then vector striked the last blood letter killing it with my harpy and killed two flamers.
He then wounded my harpy, it got grounded and then assaulted by his soulgrinder killing it.

All in all I killed a few big squads almost killed the bloodthirster and rolled badly in other parts of the game.

Any tips and tactics for future games will be appreciated!!!

Thanks!!!

Benseek24