Eldar vs. Tao

[alamomelt]

I know it's not a Nid list, but I have the chance to try out an Eldar force later today and want to give it a shot. 1200 points, I think I have access to most models, don't really know what to go with other than I want a unit of Harlequins to mess with my opponent (his favorites from 1st Ed). I've looked over the codec but one thing looks good as another since I'm new to it, and I've not found an online Eldar community to look at.

[Anggul]

Decent Eldar units:
Eldrad/Farseer
Avatar
Fire Dragons
Harlequins
Rangers/Pathfinders
Dire Avengers (ish, not so much now that enemy Rapid-Fire weapons can usually fire at 24" on the move)
Guardian Jetbikes
Fire Prisms
Dark Reapers
War Walkers

Most of the book is just poor and outdated now, so yes a large quantity of units are rather rubbish.

[snowdaman]

Playing against tau u want to take the vehicle upgrade that makes things that are strength 9 or over strength 8 which i cant remember what they are called. Because broad sides bank on their strength 10 weapons.

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[alamomelt]

Thanks for the tips!

[zephoid]

add in there warp spiders, support weapon platforms ( shadow weaver), and Yriel. Avatar is good for low points value, but loses effectiveness at higher. Dark Reapers and Rangers are just incredibly overrated. Dire avengers are good as always, but guardian jetbikes are the way to go.

I have about 15k points of eldar between my corsairs and Craftworld forces. If you have any questions just post them up.

Wave serpents get Energy Field automatically. However, if you are running a harlequin force you really dont need transports. Harlequins+ shadowseer+ farseer with fortune/doom and you can beat a whole tau force. Some warp spiders, a lot of guardian jetbikes in 3 man units, and some support platforms or war walkers with cannons outflanking and you have an army.

[allwillbeeaten]

I've been toying with the idea of going full "invisible army" with my Eldar, which I've had some success with recently.
Seer Council w/ Farseer or Eldrad running Telepathy powers to (hopefully) get Invisibility, 2 or 3 big units of Harlies with all the bells and whistles, Pathfinders (ours are better than theirs.) Striking Scorpions led by Karandras, and War Walkers running interference/ outflanking. Admittedly, I play much higher point games than 1200 as 2 detachments @2k + really opens up the Farseer shenanigans you can pull.

[zephoid]

Seer council arent very good and i would not recommend running them for a chance at invis. They get bogged down with 2+ and 3+ armor saves and dont kill enough. Same with SS, even with karandras (~400 point units need to be more killy). Harlequins are rending, I6 (matters vs chars), and have hit and run. Also 2A base. They are simply better. I run 2 units of harlequins with eldrad in one. He makes the unit lose fleet, but i take that into account and have one be the "fast" and one the slower unit in my expectations. Eldrad is largely safe in the unit and can fortune both units and doom a target every turn. With 2x FOC, you could run 2 farseers instead with doom/fortune on one, fortune on the other for the same cost as eldrad.

You could even run a 3rd or 4th harlequin squad to just be annoying. 40 harlequins with 4 farseers would be unkillable. You could literally roll a whole army unstopped. Throw in a few fusion pistols for knocking around AV14. My 20 harlequins rarely see more than 5 casualties a game at 1850. No player has ever wiped both and only one player has ever killed a full unit. 40 harlquins, all with fortune/doom seers are 1550 points, so 400 points in guardian jetbikes is a bit low, but you could drop two dooms an the stones along with them making the ~600 points for 8 3 man jetbikes. That would be a silly list.

[allwillbeeaten]

While I tend to agree with the Scorpions and Karandras not being killy enough, I've had very good luck with the foot Seer Council (Eldrad, basic Farseer, 8 to 10 Warlocks w/Enhance, Enbolden, the rest spamming Destructor.) Mind you, it's a ton of points and Invisibility isn't guaranteed but I've rolled through Dante w/ Sang. Guard, podded Furiousos, Destroyer Lord led Wraith squads, etc. and I've rarily lost more than a couple Warlocks. It's a frustrating unit for your opponent to have to deal with when used appropriately. I almost always run 2 10 strong units of Harlies with Jester and FPs and obligatory Shadowseer, Those guys will ruin your day most of the time. My next foray into Eldar is going to try and make mechdar work spamming Prisms and Falcons (now that our tank upgrades are basically useless.)