1500 point list for your concideration

[thelittlemadone]

Greetings all. A bit of background I'm getting back into the hobby after a massive break and have played a few games in 5th but due to a new job and relocation haven't yet got a game of 6th.
Been building and painting but ready to play and looking for some advice.

My current list is:
HQ
Flyrant 2x twin linked devourer + BLW

Prime, regen bonesword and lashwhipe + sything claws + toxic gland.

Troops
Tervigon Toxic sac, catalyst and regen
2 x 20 gaunts

fast attack
10 gargoyles
3x Raveners rending claws and toxic sac

Elite
Venemthrope

Heavy
2 Carnifex
Toxic sac, regen, crushing claws + sything claws

just under 1500

tactic:
gaunts screen terv and get objectives. Gargoyles screen rav's venem with fex's + prime. tyrant uses cover vector striking stuff

comments critisisms and advice welcome thanks all

[Squire]

Interesting list. How did the fexstar usually do, back in 5th? Do you cast catalyst on it or does the tervigon roll on the biomancy table?

[scrotatohead]

Not to make your list generic in any way, but you could probably do without the Venomthrope. One 'thrope tends to be an easy first blood target. Her buff's to other units have also been FAQ'd down, and with the increased amount of terrain and MCs only needing to be 25% concealed to gain a cover save, the tentacled beast just isn't as utilitarian. You might consider dropping the 'thrope and shaving some 'gants to purchase two hive guard. Vehicles are still going to be a factor in 6th and hive guard are still one of our most reliable transport poppers.

You probably also can drop the TS off the 'fex as they're going to be wounding on 2's most of the time anyhow (unless you know you'll be going up against some high toughness opponents). Crushing claws on the 'fex will definitely get them some additional attacks. If you get the prime into CC between them and lashwhip the other models in B2B down to I1 as well it might be worth it. Without the claws and adding Frag Spines you'll be able take advantage of Living Battering Ram your beasts will be slashing away at I3 against their opponent's I1. You could swap out the Crushing Claws for Frag Spines and Bio-Plasma for the same points.

[thelittlemadone]

Thanks both

The fex's in 5th were a bit 50/50 with the thrope the cover save often kept heavier fire away, and enough wounds to play wound allocation shinanigens meant often made it into punching line at which point they squashed a lot of marines, especially when chunks of the squad were at i1 due to the lash whip.

If that wasnt the case they normally got shot down, but took a massive amount of fire before 40odd gaunts then flooded the table with dice! which also was funny, so either way they served a purpose. just a lot of points to find someone focus fired them

As for psychic powers, probably roll on biomancy table as you know more a chance of better buffs, and some are catalyst so whats not to love.

And scrotatohead, i dunno im just not a fan of hive guard as you say becomes a little generic and short range. vehicles can be glanced to death by the tyrant is the plan, but well maybe and treat the crushing claws as enemy dependent as have magnetised the arms. clasw make smash attacks less of a hindrance as you. but well probably should get a hive guard. i know one of the main marine armys i will face have no vehicles though (1st company of ultramarine's)

[undertow92182]

I had a chuckle the other day when I realized that the crushing claws are a vastly better investment to put on a Tervigon these days rather than a Carnifex... the times they are changing.

[thelittlemadone]

Whats with the new love of CC on a tervi? am i being oblivious?

[undertow92182]

These days, the Carnifex is really only considered to be competitive if equipped with 2x TL Devourers.

The Tervigon, however, has no great ranged upgrade to give them. As such, the crushing claws on a Tervigon can give it 1d3+1 extra smash attacks and thats crazy useful when it assaults a vehicle. With her screening swarm of Termagants there is actually a decent chance of her making it across the field.

In addition, you can take the Tervigon as a troop choice if you also take a unit of Termagants. This is hugely important if you take the Hive Commander upgrade on a Hive Tyrant and choose a Tervigon with Crushing Claws as a troop choice. This would allow you to Outflank the Crushigon and charge in from the side field, an option not afforded to the Carnifex.