1500 - 6e Advice Needed

[vecuu]

I've spent most of 6e toying around with my new army and not Nids, but this Thursday finally going back to my LGS to play some games, and I would rather take the army that I'm both more familiar with and have painted

I understand that DakkaFlyrants and Crushigon spam is popular (and for a good reason), but I don't have the models for those.

For the most part I think the army looks like it can hold its own, but this is mostly based on my 5e Nid experience.

On to the list!

Tyranid Prime
-LW/BS, Deathspitter, Toxin Sacs
Tyranid Prime
-LS/BS, Deathspitter, Toxin Sacs

2x Hive Guard
2x Hive Guard
10 Ymgarls

Tervigon
-3x powers for Biomancy, AG, TS
20x Termagants
20x Termagants
3x Warriors
-Deathspitters, Barbed Strangler

16x Gargoyles
-AG, TS

Trygon



A bit on the Swarmy-side, starting off with 67 models on the table. Two Tyranid Primes add Synapse that's easy to hide, as well as CC oomph. Naturally, having only one Tervigon is a minor concern, since, if she dies, all of my Gants lose AG/TS, but I usually deploy the Trygon aggressively to draw fire. Plus, with a little luck, she'll roll Iron Arm.

Thoughts?

[gammaxj]

Where do the primes go? I presume on with the warrior squad and the other with a squad of termagants.

I think that 10 ymgarls is a bit too much, but that depends on what you use them as. Still, 10 will pretty reliably shred anything, so you might get caught in the open in the opponents shooting phase. Just something to think about.

[commandersasha]

I used to run 7-8 Ymgarls in 5th; I now always run 10 in 6th; not only does it help with all those extra snap shots and overwatch, but I find they are essential to my popping vehicles, so I need them to be more daring.

I've never run warriors, so I can't speak from experience, but now that 6th is all about the shooting, I can't see them lasting long against S8 guns.

Is your local area really THAT opposed to you counting your Terv as having claws, even though they are not modelled? After all, they confer extra attack bonuses that could fluffily be justified as "Endorphin Glands" or something. It's not like you're missing sponsons or a storm shield!

The Crushigon really is THAT good, I say go for it!

[vecuu]

The thing I love about Primes is that I can place them where I want situation depending. I've had primes with Gants, Tyrants, Fexen, Hive Guard, Zoanthropes, you name it.

I'm unsure about the Ymgarl brood size. In 5e I always ran a 6man Ymgarl, but I coupled it with two 8-man ToxiStealer broods outflanking. It really crunched my opponent's deployment zone and gave me a hard hitting turn 2/3. I feel like I'm compensating for the loss of outflanking Stealers by pumping up the Ymgarl, which could be good or bad. I don't know.

I tend to find myself with that small Warrior brood in games 1500 or less. They help with any awkward point maneuvering, and, if you deploy them in the rear, they very rarely draw fire early in the game, since they're too far away and too small of a brood to be a threat. Late game, when all of the S8 has been taken care of, they're quite durable.

I'm sure the people I would play with wouldn't mind my Terv pretending it had Crushing Claws, but my comment was more focused on how I only have one Tervigon (which isn't much more than a Fex on an oval base ;D ).

Obviously Iron Arm, Endurance, and Warp Speed are all extremely useful to get on a Terv. Are there any powers work dropping for Smite? Is it worth taking Triple Powers even though I'm not going to be rushing into CC with my Terv?

Any advice on the Gargoyles? Too big? Too small? Too upgraded? I haven't used them much, but they seem really awesome in 6e with the Hammer of Wrath attacks. I'd like to field a brood of 30 some day.

[Squire]

I'd probably get rid of one prime and two ymgarls for another tervigon. Lose two termagants and it can have toxin sacs. It's pretty basic but it still spawns gants, boosts the termagants and is another 6 T6 wounds on the board