500 points ideas?

[Uhtin]

Hi again all

I just wonder which of these is the best army against Necrons, Dark Eldar and Space Marines in a 500 point battle. I will listen if you have some ideas too

1

1 Flyrant
3 Warriors
8 Ymgarl Genestealers


2

1 Tyranid Prime
5 Warriors
8 Ymgarl Genestealers

Thanks for the help

[ranmafan]

Here's what I recommend:

HQ:
1x Tervigon w/ Catalyst

Troops:

3x 10 (or 2x 15, or 1x 10 + 1x 20) basic Termagants
1x Tervigon w/ Catalyst

This way you have 12 Wounds' worth of Monstrous creatures, and 30 wounds worth of cannon fodder/tarpit. Dark Eldar vehicles aren't very tough and likely won't have the fancy toys they do at 1k - 1750 point games, so this way you can effectively swarm them with bodies before they can kill your Tervigons. Once the Tervigons get in range, start breaking vehicles.

Then - cast Catalyst either on 1 Tervigon and the larger termagant brood, or both Tervigons. The DE will have to decide between the larger threat or the much harder to kill Tervigon(s).

I'm guessing even if he focuses fire on your Tervigons, with proper placement and enough cover saves+FNP, it'll take 2 turns of good shooting to kill ONE tervigon.

[forteh]

See if you can squeeze a biovore in there, large blast S4 AP4 barrage wreaks havoc on necron and eldar armour, not so useful against power armour but still not really worse than the rest of our shooting

I would definitetly go for the prime HQ over flyrant at this level, its 50% of your points in one model with 4 wounds. Ymgarls whilst nice, are pretty expensive when you really need scoring troops, better to go with the old tervigon / termagant spam method.

If you don't want use tervigon spam then consider a prime/warrior unit supported with a venomthrope,

For 500 points you can have: -

Prime - Boneswords, Deathspitter, Toxin Sacs, Regeneration

Venomthrope

Warrior x5 - 4 x Devourer, Barbed Strangler

Termagant x 12

Termagant x 13

Biovore

Blob the prime, warriors and biovore within range of the venomthropes cover save bubble with the prime at the front to absorb S8 missile spam and 2+ LoS anything else back to the warriors. Use the termagants as tarpits or screen for the prime/warrior deathstar and advance up the board as fast as possible. If you have multiple objectives to grab you can drop the prime out of the warrior brood and get him to herd a brood of termagants, if not then stick together and aim to get into combat as soon as possible.

[ranmafan]

Here's an alternate non-tervigon spam:

HQ:
Tyranid Prime w/ Lash Whip+Bonesword, Scytals and Regen or AGs.

Elites:
2x Zoanthropes (alt. replace with Hive Guards and put the points into more gants)

Troops:
1x 15 Termagants
1x 20 Termagants

Heavy Support:
2x Biovores

Attach the Prime to the 20 Termagants, put the Biovores behind the Zoeys, put everyone behind a doubled-layer of gants (so the group of 15 gants is giving the group of 20 cover saves). The termagants basically run forward, and tarpit the biggest guns (but NOT the strongest assault unit) while the Prime/Zoey/Biovore group gives cover fire. Once suitably tarpitted, detach the Prime from the Zoeys and attach him to a Termagant brood, then charge them into the most vulnerable unit. This way you get rerolls if you get challenged, and enough wounds to survive being shot at for at least 2 turns.

The Zoeys are for Synapse in case the Prime gets killed, plus they get invul saves. The Prime attaches to the gants so he's close to impossible to kill without Precision attacks, but the brood will lose Move Through Cover as a result. Alternatively, you can get 2 HGs instead of the Zoeys and attach the Prime to them instead so you get T6 rolls against the non-poisoned weapons + Impaler Cannons (ignores most cover) if they bring their nightshroud wargear thingy.

2 Biovores should provide just enough redundancy in case you miss or they get shot at, and can comfortably destroy entire units of DE in a single volley with some good dice rolls.

[vecuu]

And then there is my favorite 500pt Nid list:

Two Tyranid Primes
Two Hive Guard
Forty Termagants

Simple and effective

[Uhtin]

Thanks for the help ;D

[revx]

i personally like to run

swarmlord
tervigon
gants needed for tervi troop

[Doc Ruby]

I fielded this list once at 500 pts and afterwards my opponent and I decided that only flame template spam would stand a chance at beating it: (List originated from someone else on this forum)

Tervigon Scything Talons, Cluster Spines, Catalyst, Poison, Adrenal Glands 200

2 Hive Guard 100

20 Termagants 100
20 Termagants 100

[Uhtin]

All ideas are very good thanks

[patsfan32]

I like the warrior and venomthrope ideas. I love the nid units that dont get much play. As long as the prime stays out front to eat missles the warrior brood is gonna be a tough cookie.