Vector Strike wound allocation

[whitetail]

Or give him a choice of a model roll for wound allocation then you choose. Continue until a model is allocated the wound.

[pom611]

Say its a unit of 10 SM you vector strike I'd split the unit into two groups of 5 then role a dice on a 4+ one half get hit on a 3 or less the other then allocate each model in the group of 5 you hit a number and role another dice the model who's number comes up is hit just re-role a result of 6, sounds complicated but its just 2 dice roles really (as long as you don't get a 6 and there are only 10 guys...)

[fleetofclaw]

Random allocation is covered in the rulebook, you simply need to set up a series of rolls that does select a model completely at random. Like the "divide and conquer" method that pom mentions.

Frankly it's idiotic, slows the game down, and I don't know why they didn't just rule it closest model to the vector striking model after the flyover takes the wound. This mechanic already exists for other flyover attacks.

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[halos]

It is a rather silly ruling which is slow and can be difficult with larger/unevenly numbered squads.

I'd suggest just bringing a couple of larger dice, D20s, D10s whatever to make things a bit easier.

[coredump]

random means random, not nearest first, not even chance between types of models.

IF there are 20 models, some are mooks, some upgraded, some IC's, some whatever.... they each should have a 5% chance of taking a wound.


What I am not sure of, is how it is handled with multi wound models. My impression is that once the first one is chosen randomly, it is the target until it dies.

[ranmafan]

coredump - that would seem to make sense, seeing as other than randomly picking a model to start with, wounds allocated will always be allocated to the chosen model until the model is dead or the wound pool is empty.

I think for the sake of expediency I'll be specifying model types to be wounded with dice rolls, then rolling to wound that group first. New building management prevents us from having more than one gaming table open so we have time restrictions.

[Jestar]

Jan 28, 2013 16:23:13 GMT halos said:

It is a rather silly ruling which is slow and can be difficult with larger/unevenly numbered squads.

I'd suggest just bringing a couple of larger dice, D20s, D10s whatever to make things a bit easier.

This is exactly what i do. You can pick up a set of RPG dice for only a few dollars, and then you've got a true random for 4,6,8,10,12,and 20 model units. Any numbers in between I just use a re-roll eg. for a 9 model unit, use a D10 allocating models 1-9 and if you roll a 10 just roll again.

[infornography]

Jan 29, 2013 2:01:16 GMT ranmafan said:

coredump - that would seem to make sense, seeing as other than randomly picking a model to start with, wounds allocated will always be allocated to the chosen model until the model is dead or the wound pool is empty.

I think for the sake of expediency I'll be specifying model types to be wounded with dice rolls, then rolling to wound that group first. New building management prevents us from having more than one gaming table open so we have time restrictions.

That would be fine if it were fair, but being able to discriminate by type gives you an unfair advantage over what the rules would allow you to do. If expediency is your only concern then agree with your opponent to either assign it to the closest models before the move or after. That way you don't get to snipe out sergeants or anything when the rules don't allow for such things.

[ranmafan]

I'm beginning to think it's easiest to combine closest-to-closest with a dice roll. On a 4+, model gets wounded. If not, test next closest model until all wounds are emptied. Seems like a decent common-sense solution (and makes placement tactical).

[infornography]

...
are you saying you want precision strikes with your vector strike on a 4+? Again very much skewed in your favor on that as compared to the rules.

[ranmafan]

No, I am not saying I want precision strikes. I am saying the easiest way I can think of is to flip a coin for every model closest to the Harpy when it VSes in a mix of shooting and random strike rules. If he wants to put his important models in the path of the Harpy I'm all for it.

Alternatively:
Let me think about it. How about this:

In a typical VS I roll D3+1 - a minimum of 2 hits. We divide the wounded unit up by that number of parts (maximum of 4 quarters), determine which part gets hit by the first hit, then roll off for the models in that part to see who takes the wound. To save time I can roll 2 different dice - 1 for the subdivided part, and 1 for the model that takes the wound.

So example:
1) I'm striking a group of 8 marines, and I get 3 hits.
2) The three parts will be 2, 3 & 3 models. (divided into 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 on the dice)
3) Second dice will then be either a 50/50 (1-3 = model 1, 4-6 = model 2), or a D3.

Repeat for each hit until all wounds are allocated. I'm thinking on average I'll only be causing 2 wounds per VS anyway.

The problems I can see w/ a D10/D20 is that one or both of us is entirely likely to forget the agreed upon manner of counting out models when actually allocating wounds.

This is extremely annoying for something that should only take a few seconds to resolve.

[WestRider]

So you're saying you think it's it's easier to do an extra round of randomization than to just do basic randomization?

[ranmafan]

Hm... I guess that does sound silly in retrospect.

Easiest way? Roll a D6/D10/D20 and just let the opponent start counting from a randomly picked model?

[Jabberwocky]

Just count either from front to back (as if you were allocating closest first as per normal) or left to right if it's simpler but say before you roll your D10 or whatever.

[Lanesend]

Yeah, that's how we play it too. If you have 8 models in the targetunit just reroll results of 9 and 10.

Not difficult at all.