2k vs. Mech Eldar

[hungryhungryripper]

Guys,

I would love some help with the Infernal Eldar, the very Bane of my Tyranid Existance.

I have some strong ideas about my list but this is my first large game against eldar in 6ed and this is a seasoned eldar player with sound tactics.

He will no doubt field
Eldrad
Seer Council on bikes
Guardians on bikes
Fire dragons in a wave serpent
no doubt he will use all the stones he can to thwart my psyvhic powers as well.

What do you all think?

Do i continue with a flyrant, tervigon, support list or move to a swarm to attempt to limit his mobility?

Thanks for any and all feedback!

[Jabberwocky]

I'd stick with what you know but try and keep gaunt screens ~10" in front of your MCs to keep those fusion guns and possible wraithcannons out of range.

Ymgarls and Hive Guard will be preferable over Zoans, though DoM can be great still.

Bike seer councils are expensive and durable but shouldn't hurt too much. I'd ignore them until the more fragile threats are dealt with.

[andersschm]

Loads of Hive Guard.

Maybe upgrade Gargoyles to hurt his bikes and skimmers?

What does the most damage when you play Eldar normally? I can't say I would be too worried about the Eldar units you have listed. (Except fire dragons who are best unit in 40k)

[hungryhungryripper]

The speed is usually the issue and I am not looking forward to really with eldrad and 3d6 psychic tests.

Does anyone think the death leaper is worth fielding against eldrad? I've seen some folks think so but I'm not sold.


Thoughts?

[hungryhungryripper]

Dealing not really..lol

[hungryhungryripper]

Ok so we finally got around to playing. Ill give a brief run down

Tyranids

Flyrant TL DEVs
15x hormies AG/TS spore
15x Devils TS spore
2x tervi 2 powers AG/TS
10x termies
17 gargs AG/TS
3x hiveguard
Doom spore
Trygon
Death leaper
2x biovores

Eldar

Eldrad - bleh in wave serpent with 5x fire dragons
5x3 jet bikes
One with Farseer and warlock attached
2x3 vyperz one with stars the other with scatter
2x night spinners
1x3 d cannon artillery
5x fire dragons w/ exarch in a bastion with quad gun

We played the scourging with corners deployment.

We only managed to play till turn 3 but at that point things were about even though based on the amount of firepower he had left I think it may have been difficult to hold on to the win.

I was pretty happy with things overall but honestly the bastion and the d cannons were tough. I wrecked te bastion on turn 3 but the d cannons really were causing me grief on his turn 2 he ID'd a T9 iron arm tervi.

What's the standard for a flying base for a flyrant? Can he take advantage of area terrain while swooping? How best to deal with D cannon barrage? Can he take cover saves vs the dooms absorb?

Those were the few questions I had after we finished.

Also ill say that the deathleapers leadership penalty hurt eldrad a ton and he popped a night spinner as well. Maybe not great most times but def helped out today.

Thoughts?

[Jabberwocky]

Either normal MC base or the large clear circle base are fine for the Flyrant really.

He can use area terrain still.

Artillery needs holding up with Ymgarls or bombing with biovores.

You can take cover saves from spirit leech.

Iron Arm gives eternal warrior so you shouldn't have been IDed.

Hope that helps!

[hungryhungryripper]

Man I totally whiffed on the eternal from iron arm! Oh well I won't ever forget that again!


Honestly after playing in a few games vs mech eldar I'm not nearly as concerned about them as I had been in 5e. Eldrad is great but not insane, I hate runes of witnessing but it's not horrible and at higher point games his maneuverability is negated somewhat by deep striking reserves and sheer numbers and board coverage.

RiP

[PumpkinHead]

Eldar can no longer cast while in transports. Their latest FAQ kicked him square in the nutz!

Q: The Farseer Psychic Powers rules state that they do not require the
Eldar Psyker to have line of sight to the target. Does this mean that they
can be used by an Eldar psyker embarked on a Transport? (p28)
A: No.

[hungryhungryripper]

Right!

I read that myself last week. It definitely puts a damper on old Eldrads day!