Baby Hive

[glassskin]

Hello everyone,

I am thinking of starting a Tyranid army (yes its that line i'm sure your all sick of hearing). Now i have little previous experience with warhanmer, played the occasional game with friends and have never owned my own army. A few of my friends are very much into their armies and play regularly so i will have help getting to grips with the game and will play often. Once a week or so. Now being that i am inexperienced is starting with a Tyranid army ludicrous. Or do you think i can make it happen? If so anyone got any starting tips or could point me to previous threads with great starter tips?

Thank you, and sorry for my long winded point. Any question i will be happy to answer.

-GlassSkin

[TheContortionist]

my tip for starting players used to be, "when you buy a battle box convert the warriors to hiveguard." NOw, the best advise i feel i can give a starting player is to convert a Doom of malanti and a spore pod. This is sound advise.

[glassskin]

Thank you. I am to understand that since the new edition rule book Tyranids have been slightly altered. Your advice will be helpful :-)

[bohdominator]

Tyranids is my first army.

[retnab]

I didn't end up converting my Warriors when I started, partly not understanding how easy they are to die for their points cost, and partly for a Tyranid Prime which is almost guaranteed to be your HQ choice at low point games. Hive Guard and Zoanthropes are good, I like Venomthropes but most people don't because they got nerfed in melee support. Monstrous Creatures are great against non-Dark Eldar armies, swarms are great at locking down elite armies like Grey Knights. Also, enjoy!

[Davor]

We are never sick of anyone saying, Starting a new Tyranid Army. We love it and welcome to The Hive.

For advice? Well what kind of player are you? Are you an Assaulty player or shooty player? A hoardy player or a MC player? Maybe a combination of all of them?

Do you play for fun, or competivaly or both? That will help us out a bit.

One consensus where everyone will agree is that the Pyrovore sucks. Other than that, you will here Carnifexes are over costed and not playable while others will say, while yes they are over costed they are still very playable.

Sadly Genestealers got the nerf bat in 6th edition, so we need to find a new way to make them work, but Tyranids are still a fun army to play.

My last advice, since I didn't follow it, and have an unpainted army now is paint, 10 gaunts, then paint a bigger mini like a Warrior or something. Paint another 10 gaunts, then treat yourself to a Hive Tyrant or Trygon or a big mini. This way you should have a nice painted army then.

[glassskin]

Thank you all so much for your advice. I feel very welcomed here on this forum! :-D i will start off worh some smaller models pregaps design a colour theme and see what i loke best. As for playing your ideas seem great! And im sure withore snooping around on this forum i will be ready for my 1st game in no time! Thank you all!

[glassskin]

Jan 12, 2013 18:22:25 GMT Davor said:

For advice? Well what kind of player are you? Are you an Assaulty player or shooty player? A hoardy player or a MC player? Maybe a combination of all of them?

Do you play for fun, or competivaly or both? That will help us out

I will be playing for both fun and competivaly. As for my type of plays i don't have anything prefered prehaps i am adaptable. Bit for tyranids i hear horde armies go dowm well? So i guess i will just adopt that role.

Edit: For my appauling grammer and spelling

[atrocity]

You will have lots of fun with Tyranids, that I can assure you!

Watching the enemy army decreasing whilst your numbers are just increasing is a very nice feeling


First things IMO would be to get a Flyrant (flying hive tyrant) and then a tervigon kit as well as about 30 Termagants. Using the fleshborer hive from the tervigon kit on your hive tyrant to show "twin-linked devourers" is a good choice. It's what I do

From there, move on to awesome units such as Gargoyles, Hive Guards, Doom of Malantai, Deathleaper and Trygons.

You will have fun! I assure you AGAIN!

[rpricew]

Jan 12, 2013 18:22:25 GMT Davor said:

We are never sick of anyone saying, Starting a new Tyranid Army. We love it and welcome to The Hive.

For advice? Well what kind of player are you? Are you an Assaulty player or shooty player? A hoardy player or a MC player? Maybe a combination of all of them?

Do you play for fun, or competivaly or both? That will help us out a bit.

One consensus where everyone will agree is that the Pyrovore sucks. Other than that, you will here Carnifexes are over costed and not playable while others will say, while yes they are over costed they are still very playable.

Sadly Genestealers got the nerf bat in 6th edition, so we need to find a new way to make them work, but Tyranids are still a fun army to play.

My last advice, since I didn't follow it, and have an unpainted army now is paint, 10 gaunts, then paint a bigger mini like a Warrior or something. Paint another 10 gaunts, then treat yourself to a Hive Tyrant or Trygon or a big mini. This way you should have a nice painted army then.

This is a solid start. I agree with everything Davor said and asked you. There is a steep learning curve with the Nids and I lost a lot of my first games. But as the Tyranids often do, I adapted and learned and now can play in tournaments and have super fun fluffy games with my friends.

It's getting into the "Hive's Mind" and seeing images like these, that makes the game fun for me.

[tyrantosaurus]

Welcome to the Hive! Tyranids are a fantastic army to play and the models are some of the coolest in 40k. Tervigons rock. Seriously. And the Flyrant kit, in addition to being amazing to look at is an absolute terror to bring down. Picking Tyranids grants you the ability to control a massive swarm of units that cover the board or an army of lumbering bio-titans that peel open tanks like bananas. To start out, I recommend picking up a battleforce for your troops and a tyrant kit and then maybe some hive guard for low-point starting games. The learning curve is a bit steep, as said above, but after a few games you can get the hang of how the Swarm works. Zoanthropes are cool too if you fancy a lance of pure energy one-shotting a 250 point Space Marine Land Raider. Welcome! Welcome to the MOST AWESOME ARMY IN WARHAMMER 40,000!!!


Can you tell I like Nids?

[badlybuilt]

Just starting myself, havent even played a game yet....... but the thought of how much a nid army can be customized and converted just oozes excitment!

From experience ( as previously stated ) start with one squad at a time and paint it, then move onto something else.

Nothing wrong a little down the line with proxy ( stand in ) models to test new units out. I spent way too much on a SoB army and now dont use about $400 worth of models.

Ebay stores are great for parts you want to use to make different models. There are cheaper ways to make the expensive models and better looking imo.

Posting an army list on this forum is excellent for feedback . ( They helped me create my first list I am collecting and building towards )

[Bane Wordsmith]

Get used to losing a lot of your first games untill you get used to the nid play style. It's not a standard army, there's tricks o learn and tactics to perfect. but once done, get used to the look of deseration on your opponet's face when the realise you're about to slaughter them and it's too late to do anything about it. (usally the end of your third turn turn)
Advice?
- Hug cover and try to stay of out line of sight if you can help it.
- Get used to your guants dying, that's what they're there or, you only need half of them to win, the others are meatshields.
- Target saturation is key, give them so many targets they don't know what to shoot, and when they do they'll regret the whole next turn, wondering if they made the right choice.
- Don't be afraid of overwatach, in combat we are king.
- The Harpy isn't as bad as everyone says it is.
- The Pyrovore is.

[guns]

Tyranids actually have one unusual advantage for starting players; the mental game.

You should NEVER feel bad losing a game with your nids. You get to imagine yourself as a tiny offshoot of a vast, unrelenting, completely-coordinated entity that will guarantee your revenge. When a squad of yours gets wiped off the board, hey, whatever, they were just cookie cutter bioforms designed to catch bullets for the Hive Mind. They were born to die, and your opponent just fulfilled their birthright. When your opponent loses a squad containing his prized sergeant or a favoured heavy weapons trooper you can laugh in his face and tell him how that individual's DNA is now tagged for absorption and will be generously divided amongst the new batch of disposable Tyranid weapon-beasts. We don't have a home planet, we don't have internecine division, and we don't experience fear. Let your opponent enjoy his temporary sense of victory, because tomorrow he and everyone he knows is getting hacked up, boiled down, and reconstituted as some sort of braindead menial janitor-slug that gets to crawl through Hiveships and keep the waste ducts lubricated.

[jofan32]

I started of with tyranids as my first army and got to say have never looked back, yes I've lost won and drawn games, had some epic battles. People love my colour scheme and they hate that most of the nids have toughness 6 lol, i say most more like the important ones my opponent thinks can be insta killed. Imo the best thing to remember is to have fun and play with a smile :-)