1500 genestealer list HELP!

[hiveoram]

hi all
i started collecting 'nids ages ago and wanted a mostly 'stealer list so this is pretty much my collection rolled into a list!

HQ
parasite

Elites
2x Venomthropes

Troops
3x warriors with deathspitters

20x stealers with scything talons

18x stealers with scything talons

8x ripper bases

Heavy Support

carnifex with stranglethorn cannon

anyway thats about all i've got for now have a project building a couple of spores for the stealer's.

most i end up fighting against is marines of one type or another or chaos.

[jhussey]

I love Genestealers, or at least I used to. It takes so long to get them into combat now that the old Space Hulk way of playing them seems to fall short, unless they are Ymgarl stealers. Don't get me wrong, I love your list and fluff wise it's sexy, makes me mad that the reg stealers are nerfed so bad.

[Nightmare20]

Cut the rippers. I hear they aren't worth the points at all. Besides you need models for the parasite to spawn. Use the points and get some broodlords. Also splitting up the venomthropes might be a good idea if you plan to run all those guys up.

[hiveoram]

ok thanks guys! really miss the old stealers too!!
only problem with splitting the venomthropes is i'd have to lose one of the Ymgarl broods and i would be hoping it makes it to combat with those poisoned attacks

[Nightmare20]

Ah, sorry. You didn't have ymgarls listed under elites. In that case keep the venoms together. But you should be taking broodlords if you can afford them. They seem to make up for their point value and they destroy in challenges and it gives you access to psyker abilities in a list normally without them. Even if you have to lose a few stealers it seems worth it with groups around 20.

[hiveoram]

sorry just looked back up the list i've been using the 18 stealers as 10 and 8 ymgarl broods

[fleetofclaw]

Well this is a fun challenge; make this list effective without saying, "scrap it and start over". Interesting that for a fairly limited selection of models you have a Parasite! Very cool.

Not sure how much remodeling or proxying you wanting to do but here are my thoughts based on the assumption you're not adding any models.

First of all do *not* pod genestealers, they're total sitting ducks during the turn they drop in. But indeed make a pod.....

HQ
Parasite

Elite
Venomthrope
Venomthrope
10x ymgarls

Troops
7x genestealers w/ toxin sacs
1x warrior proxied as a Broodlord with scything talons & biomancy

7x genestealers w/ toxin sacs
1x warrior proxied as a Broodlord with scything talons & biomancy

7x genestealers w/ toxin sacs
1x warrior proxied as a Broodlord with scything talons & biomancy

7x genestealers w/ toxin sacs

Heavy
Carnifex w/ 2x brainleech devourers in a Pod

This puts you at 1401 ponts. I guess you could do two broods of 4 tunneling rippers to bump it to a little under 1500. This list will struggle but it would be fun. Way too much 5+ saves and no shooting. The Carnifex in the pod and the ymgarls will be a badly needed distraction for your genestealers to move up. Infiltration is by far the best way to deploy the genestealers, it especially helps you get the broodlords close enough to drop maledictions on turn 1.

I have no idea what a Parasite is going to do in this list. He's slowed down by everything you have, but I suppose you might as well put him in a genestealer brood; you certainly don't want him to give up an easy Warlord point.

The other thing I might recommend is proxy the Venomthropes as Zoanthropes, pulling down more psychic powers. All those psychic powers could really help those genestealers advance upfield and tear stuff up once they get close.

High end competition level effective? No. Fun beer and pretzel list? Yes. If you want to really flesh out a genestealer list I *highly* recommend getting the Swarmlord and some Zoanthropes to really solidify that psychic assault theme.

[hiveoram]

thank Fleet of claw of not being too harsh!
i dont mind remodeling stuff/creating stuff, i had been thinking of using parasite as a harpy and see how that goes but that leaves HQ open, so did consieder proxy carnifex as tyrant or cheap warrior prime?