Tyrant guard

[raylorne]

Gonna be a few questions in this thread.

I'm looking at picking up 3 tyrant guard and a 3rd hive guard

I've never run a melee hive tyrant with guard, so i'm curious how people kit this unit out. I was looking at lash whip and bonesword for the tyrant with scything talons for the reroll on 1's. would I be better served with dual scything to reroll all misses? On the guard I went with lash whips. Would boneswords or scything be better? I also put armoured shell on the tyrant. Good choice?

OR

For about what i'm spending on guard I could probably pick up two trygons or a second tervigon. I don't face a whole lot of flying enemies so it's not critical that I have the flyrant for AA. I kinda like the idea of the land based Deathstar unit with my tyrant, but i'm curious what levels of success people have had with it. $100 worth of units isn't that much, but it's probably the last warhammer purchase I can justify to my girlfriend for a while so i'd like to make it count.

[infornography]

If you are going with a melee oriented tyrant just take swarmlord. Two times the psyker abilities, two times the castings, automatic instant death attacks, invuln in melee, and the ability to hand out a buff to any unit within range including his own.

The tyrant guard should either be lash whips to drop enemy initiative or plain for point efficiency.

[Jabberwocky]

I second the Swarmlord.

For guard though, any weapon loadout can work. Boneswords are expensive but deadly and add a big bit of killing power to the unit. You just have to keep them alive moreso than you would with vanilla guards.

[baconslice]

Yep, I thought the swarm lord was expensive. But buy the time you geared out your flyrant. There's not much in it.
4+ invun in melee and instant death. Point him at the enemies best unit and watch them mess their pants.

[Jabberwocky]

Not to mention much easier access to iron arm AND endurance on the unit, making it incredibly resilient.

[WestRider]

The one reason to take a regular Tyrant over the SwarmLord here is if you want that 2+ Sv. Against Missile Spam/Torrent lists, that can be a huge help.

Just one more factor to keep in mind.

[lordbob]

I would normally go with swarmlord, he is amazing, but I've been a huge fan of him since we got him in 5th.

However, I agree with Westrider, the 2+ is also very nice, and if with old adversary and tyrant guard makes a very nice firing base with hive guard and devourer gaunts.

[ranmafan]

Magnetized my T.Guards so I could use LW for a Dakka Shelled Tyrant, or just vanilla for a support Tyrant (lw/bs, old adv, hive comd, AS). Typically I don't use for than 2 Guards though, they get expensive fast. Just use target saturation instead.