1000 pts vs unknown tomorrow

[malebranche]

Hi, long time since I have been here. I am in a bind, and figured only the hive mind can help. I have a 1000 point game tomorrow against someone who has a hell of a lot of armies, and I havent exactly got experience with 6th ed, and barely even know the rules. I think he'll be Using chaos marines or vanilla marines , though theres a slight chance of him using Dark Eldar. Now, goiing by what little I know about 6th, heres my first draft army list:
+160= parasite of mortrex
+203= 29x gargoyles with toxin sacs
+140= 10x stealers
+200=10x stealers w/blord
+240= 6x raveners w/rending claws & spinefists
+55= Vthrope
So what do I need to change? I feel like I need something big, and I got my way through 5th by having lists nobody expected to see. People I know usually play WYSIWYG, but small details like toxin sacs are unimportant. Heres what I have to choose from:
1 Prime with scything talons and boneswords
1 parasite of mortrex
1 venomthrope
1 deathleaper
6 warriors w/ just scything talons
2 warriors with scything talons, bonesword and lashwhip (yes I know, but they made OOE usable in 5th)
2 warriors with scything talons and BS
16 genestealers
16 genestealers with scything talons
8 ripper bases
6 raveners with rending claws, scything talons and spinefists
30 gargoyles (another 30 still not assembled, could probably rush a few more together)
1 Old One Eye
1 T fex with rupture cannon
2 Trygon primes (can probably use as normal trygons)
*edit: Sorry about the terrible spelling and grammar too, this touchscreen is killing me.

[dnalloht]

from what i have been told, the venomthrope is good against vehicals, so that would be good either way, sure he will use at least one.

[GuardDog78]

^^^ Uh...a venomthrope is not useful against vehicles...and not that great against infantry...it's primarily a support unit.

As for your suggested list...it's a tough call. Against marines i would probably drop theravenors and grab a trygon and a few more stealers...but if he brings DE then that trygon will probably go down quickly. Maybe replacing ravenors with warriors so you have an additional scoring unit with backfield synapse?

It's hard to figure out a balanced (damaging/durable) list with the models listed...
Honestly, I could go into the usual rant you'll hear about "you need a tervigon/hive guards/zoans"...all the usual stuff...they do make for effective builds...but you seem to be going for a fast striking kind of list...

In the future...i'd say look into getting a flyrant to replace the Parasite (great for infantry and armor)...loose the ravenors...and grab some more stealers or get hormies or ymgarls to keep the same kind of theme...

***EDIT
I don't want to seem like I'm knocking your build...in 5th edition...I'd have liked to try it...but stealers (used to be in all my builds) got hit a little harder than most in 6e...

[malebranche]

Youre probably thinking of the zoanthrope, the venomthrope provides much need support to my army. I need Hive Guard to fill that slot, but wont have any for a few more months at this rate.
Im now fairly certain that he'll be using chaos, which worries me because I havent even glimpsed their new codex, and all I know is that they now have a bunch of monstrous creatures, which are probably all just half-priced carnifex equivalents. Even if not, I can see him taking a bloodthirster or something to decimate me, so I think toxin sacs will be a necessity - but then I have no anti armour.

*edit* maybe drop the stealers down to a commando squad and a small secondary band with ST and toxin sacs? Or a trio of warriors with dual ST and toxin sacs? Then I can start working on room for the trygon...
Maybe ditch the parasite for a prime with boneswords and tox sacs, he seems to cause a lot of damage. Cut the size of the gargoyle unit down to 20 but keep the tox sacs as a nasty surprise for the big stuff?

*more edit* Ok, swapped out the parasite for the toxin-bonesword prime (hes usually very nasty), threw in a trygon, cut the genestealers down to a commando squad. I have 149 points left - genestealers, 4 warriors with talons and toxin sacs, or 2 super nasty BS/lash whip/toxin sac warriors and a barbed strangler buddy for them to escort the prime? I could even drop the venomthrope, since him and that last combo were meant to be wrapped around OOE in fifth - not sure it will do much in this list.

[dnalloht]

doh! sorry, thats it. i dont have either one, got it confused.

[dnalloht]

doh! sorry, thats it. i dont have either one, got it confused.