1750 unfriendly list

[ranmafan]

Hi all,

I'll be frank - I have a lot of 'skin of my teeth' friendly lists where I use 6th-ed maligned units like Genestealers and Shrikes and Raveners. The point of this list is to counter the huge number of 'unfriendly' mechanized/big gun lists I come up against frequently.

HQ:
Hive Tyrant w/ Hive Commander, Old Adversary, 1x TL Devourer, Thorax Swarm (Dessicator Larvae)
3x Tyrant Guards w/ Scytals

Elites:
2x 3 Hive Guards
1x 3 Zoanthropes via Mycetic Spore (w/ TL Deathspitter)

Troops:
1x 10 Termagants
1x 18 Termagants
2x Tervigons w/ Toxin Sacs, three psychic powers (Biomancy)

Heavy Support:
1x Carnifex w/ 2 TL Devourers via Mycetic Spore (w/ TL Deathspitter)

Basic tactics:
Deathstar Tyrant w/ Hive Guards and termagant wall, Tervigons covering the flanks. The idea is to aggressively run up to, then bog down enemy infantry (if any) with Termagants while Hive Guard and Tyrant pour fire into enemy vehicles. Tervigons are basically buff machines, only engaging enemy vehicles and targets opportunity but otherwise objective holders.

Thorax swarm is primarily an anti-terminator/biker/Nurgle defense and a secondary fire option while retaining the close combat weapons for Grey Knights.

Zoanthropes and Carnifex are reactionary/pincer deployments - Hopefully I don't roll 1s, then they drop in behind enemy lines. TL Deathspitters are an anti Flyer defense (surprisingly effective) - all are anti heavy-armour or anti gunline to deal with Quad guns and Preds/Land raiders/Battlewagon/equivalents.

I'm debating swapping out the Carnifex with a Harpy, but Harpies have been less than stellar so far in games like these.

Alternate biomorphs:
Tyrant Guards w/ Lash whips, Carnifex w/ Bioplasma
Hive Tyrant w/ Armored Shell

Tactics and list refinements? I'm doubtful of the thorax swarm and 8 extra termagants, but I'm not sure what else to spend 65 points on. (armored shell is nice but 3x tyrant guards tend to mitigate that)

[swarm492]

Your elites are almost a picture perfect rendition of my elites every game I play. Those are also the tactics I employ pretty much every game as well, This approach does me really well, I hope you find similar success.

[biorivera]

I'm just curious why you didnt do two squads of 14 gaunts instead of one squad o' 18 and a squad of 10.

You might also look at running the DoM in a pod in place of that harpy/fex. I am a fan of the fex though.

[ranmafan]

biorivera - Because if one group of termagants is gonna die, it'll be the 10-gant brood while the 18 gant group takes their cover saves behind it, and then charges the first threat that comes into range.

[Deleted]

Thorax Swarm is not worth the Wings/AS slot, nor is it worth the shooting slot a Devourer could occupy. 3 Guard is bit overkill imo, I would take one for the advantage of majority toughness with IA. You could give the Tyrant dual Devourers to do more damage and give the Guard LW to mitigate strong CC models jumping your Tyrant. A dakkarant with AS and a single LW Guard will do more damage and be tougher to kill. With IA you'll have 7Ws at T7-9 with a 2+ to soak Kraks, and if you get into CC you'll still have a LW handy and shrug off most power weapons.

[Jabberwocky]

Agree with 60, drop 2 guard for shell, another devourer and even regen in this case.

[ranmafan]

Nice. I dropped a few things, gave myself 3 Biovores to deal with all the enemy big guns and quad guns, AS Tyrant w/ 2x TL Devs and 1 Tyrant Guard w/ Lash Whip. I just hope the opponents target the Tervigons first. Time to test this list.