First two Lists @1850

[mikespol]

List 1

HQ - 285 points - swap for BRB powers
Hive Tyrant (2xT/L Devourers, Wings, Old Adversary, Leech Essence, Paroxysm)

Troops - 810 points
15 Termagants (Devourers)
15 Termagants (Devourers)
Tervigon (Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst, Onslaught) - swap for BRB powers
Tervigon (Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst, Onslaught) - swap for BRB powers

Elite - 295 points
Doom of Malan'tai + Mycetic Spore (T/L Deathspitter) - swap for BRB powers
Zoanthrope - swap for BRB powers
Zoanthrope - swap for BRB powers

Fast Attack - 175 points
25 Gargoyles

Heavy Support - 380 points
Carnifex (2xT/L Devourers)
Carnifex (2xT/L Devourers)

List 2

HQ - 285 points
- Hive Tyrant (2xT/L Devourers, Wings, Old Adversary, Leech Essence, Paroxysm) - swap for BRB powers

Troops - 810 points
- 15 Termagants (Devourers)
- 15 Termagants (Devourers)
- Tervigon (Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst, Onslaught) - swap for BRB powers
- Tervigon (Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, Toxin Sacs, Catalyst, Onslaught) - swap for BRB powers

Elite - 140 points
- Doom of Malan'tai + Mycetic Spore (T/L Deathspitter) - swap for BRB powers

Fast Attack - 175 points
- 25 Gargoyles

Heavy Support - 500 points
- Trygon Prime (Adrenal Glands)
- Trygon Prime (Adrenal Glands)

Thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers

[roxor08]

Personally, I lean towards the second list because of the effect Trygon's have on opponents. Additionally, I dislike the idea of walking zoans up the battlefield, especially as single model units.

I would suggest to remove the adrenal glands from the Trygons and possibly even the Prime addon. By doing so you'd save yourself 100 points to invest in 2 hive guard to fill your anti-mech gap that you have in your army.

I assume you were taking them as primes for either the shooting (which is rather underperforming) additional synapse (which you do not need).

Consider those changes and I think your second list is well put together.

[nidzy]

In both of these lists it looks like your flyrant is going to rapidly outpace the rest of your army. I have had success with somewhat similar lists but it is essential to play conservatively with your hive tyrant (who is also your warlord!) so that he hits at the same time as the rest of your force. I have started taking spores for my dakka fex and one squad of devil gants with hive commander on the tyrant in hopes of hiding the flyrant on turn one and then jumping him out on turn 2 to support the guns dropping in. I generally run with a tyranid prime as a warlord and outflank him with my walking squad of devil gants.

I agree with roxor's assessment of list 2. The prime upgrade has its merits in some cases, but it is certainly not needed on both of them. I would make the unit as cheap as possible and throw in a couple of hive guard. The high str shooting will benefit the tremendous anti infantry firepower your army already has.

In either of the lists I would like to see some of those devourers delivered via spore. This allows you to pick your best spot with them after your opponent has already deployed. It gives you a chance to position them against rear armor, or in a piece of area terrain outside of your deployment where you can sit at range and get a couple of good turns of shooting. I generally run 1 squad of 15 in a spore, one walking and 1 carnifex in a spore in my shooty bugs 1850 list.