starting a new SM list

[rendy]

I have the following old style (Rogue Trader) space marine models:
12 marines with bolters
2 with flamers
2 with missile launchers
3 with heavy bolters
4 with multi-meltas
1 sergeant with power fist
1 sergeant with bolter
Dreadnought

I'm looking to create a small vanilla space marine force which could be an ally to go with my son's blood angels (and then perhaps become the starting point for my own space marine army).

I could put together a tactical squad (or two) and perhaps a devastator squad but am wondering what people find works well (or think might work well) in terms of BA support?

[baconslice]

Well blood angels are supposed to be an assault army. So perhaps you'd want to balance that? If you took a shooty vanilla allies list of troops to take objectives. Then you can just take scouts for your BA and pimp them out with elites.

[rendy]

So perhaps:
One 10-man tactical squad with flamer and missile launcher
Two devastator squads (one with missile launcher, heavy bolter, 2 multi-meltas.....the other with 2 heavy bolters and 2 multi-meltas)
One dreadnought
?

[baconslice]

Sounds good, I personally like to put the missile launchers in the devastators as its long range, and put one of the multi meltas in the tac squad as that one will be on the move and can get closer?

[rendy]

Thanks- this is what I'll go with:

Captain with power fist and storm bolter
Dreadnought with twin-linked heavy bolter
Tactical Squad (10 men), includes flamer and multi-melta.
Devastator Squad (2 with missile launchers, two with heavy bolters)

[baconslice]

Sounds good, and don't forget if you like the drednoughts, BA have awesome ones, the furioso, death company and librarian!

[NidsAndMarines]

I'd try not to give the Captain a powerfist. As the whole list (attachment for now) has limited I5, it would be a pity to lose it for just a PF. A better option might be a relic blade. Might want to consider losing the stormbolter and taking a combiweapon and equipping it with Hellfire rounds - then your captain's ordinary shooting hits on 2+ and wounds on 2+ aswell, and if needs be he can use his better BS to melta or plasma something, or flamer before an assault or as a boost for overwatch. And with artificer armour he has a 2+ armour save and if you can find him a bike he's also T5.
'NidsAndMarines.

[nidzy]

I suggest a librarian as a cheap hq choice. The changes to psychic powers give him a shot to be a really nice support unit, or even a solid assault threat with rolls on biomancy.

For a dreadnought just walking I like an assault cannon. It keeps him cheap, gives him a nice range and the ability to hurt essentially any unit in the game with strength 6 rending.

Vanilla marines have nice cheap options in heavy support that are a good backup to blood angels. A predator would probably be a good pick up and I personally love the thunderfire cannon. It is a beast at anti infantry! However, blood angels get devastators cheaper than vanilla so I suggest putting the dev squad in that list and looking at the other space marine options when you choose to expand your list.