1500 CSM bikes and land raiders

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i have two chaos lists i'm playing with; this is the first one:

hq
huron blackheart

troops
CSM X10, X2 flamer, mark of slaanesh, exchange bolters for CCW, icon of excess, champ w/ plasma, power sword, meltabombs
CSM X9, X1 flamer, mark of slaanesh, exchange bolters for CCW, icon of excess, champ w/ plasma, power sword, meltabombs

FA
CSM bike X4, X2 plasmaguns, champ w/ plasma, power sword, meltabombs
CSM bike X4, X2 meltagun, champ w/ plasma, power sword

heavy
havok X5, X2 missile X2 autocannon
land raider w/ dozer blade
land raider w/ dozer blade

one thing i have noticed is that with the scouring and big guns never tire on the mission list, it's good to have heavy and FA slots represented as potential scorers.

list is simple enough, use huron's warlord trait to infiltrate the CSM squads in the land raiders in an advantageous position right from the get-go. it's kind of gimicky and expensive and not as optimized as i like to run, but, hey, i'm a raider fan and i have two of them and wanted to play them. i have another version of the list trying to use terminators but i'm less fond of it; that one hasn't gelled well yet.

i am considering dropping one unit of bikes for a cultist unit for a third troops choice that i can reserve to protect for late-game objective grabbing if necessary.

plasma pistols on all squad leaders to try to take advantage of precision shooting where possible.

thoughts and CC?

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just found a problem with the list, apparently i missed the last paragraph in the infiltrate rule. while a unit with infiltrate confers the rule to a transport it's embarked in, an IC without the rule can't join a unit of that starting the game infiltrated.

plan was to have huron attached to the 9 man unit in the LR, and try to infiltrate both units in the tanks. that's right out, so i will drop one of the bike units, bump the 9 man squad to 10, and add a large cultist unit that i will attach Huron to. i can infiltrate them or reserve as late-game objective grabber as needed.

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ok, made initial changes:

hq
huron blackheart

troops
CSM X10, X2 flamer, mark of slaanesh, exchange bolters for CCW, icon of excess, champ w/ plasma, power sword, meltabombs
CSM X10, X2 flamer, mark of slaanesh, exchange bolters for CCW, icon of excess, champ w/ plasma, power sword, meltabombs
cultists X20

FA
CSM bike X5, X2 plasmaguns, champ w/ plasma, power sword, meltabombs

heavy
havok X5, X2 missile X2 autocannon
land raider w/ dozer blade
land raider w/ dozer blade

yeah i think i like this a bit better. the list would probably be more solid if i ditched the raiders and just had big honking nasty units of CSM at max squad size, and i'm sure i'll build that list...but i wanted to play both my land raiders, ffs.

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...ok fine that took like 15 minutes.

foot version of this:

huron
csm X17, X2 melta, slaanesh, icon of excess, champ with plas/psword
csm X17, X2 melta, slaanesh, icon of excess, champ with plas/psword
cultists X20, X2 flamer
bikes X5, X2 plasma, slaanesh, champ w/ plas/sword, meltabombs
X5 havoks, X4 ML
X5 havoks X4 AC
X5 havoks X4 AC

lot of guys on the table. huron can go with whoever it's best for him to go with. can use the cultist blob squad as a speedbump/blocker/assault soaker if needed, huron can go w/ to make them fearless, or i can reserve the cultists to protect them till late in game and come in for objectives. two units of FNP I5 ccw marines starting up in your grill isn't exactly pretty, either. bikes are counter-puncher/problem solver for whatever the havoks don't kill. couldn't find room to put an icon on them, pity. i'm still not sold on the foot list thing though. we'll see.