Psychic Spam (Finally Back)

[emoge]

Well, I took a break from 40k with the onset of 6th edition and I'm about to have my first game. I've lurked a little the past two days but that's about the extent of my 6th edition knowledge.

I've read through the 6th edition book once (I know I know supposed to be twice) and honestly I skimmed a lot seeing as how most of it is the same as 5th (only abilities changed really).

I came up with the following list. I know stealers suck now supposedly but I love the unit so gonna try to abuse challenges and psychic things:

== HQ ==
Swarmlord Brood
Swarmlord (1)
Tyrant Guard (3) - Bonesword
Tervigon (1) - Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, Toxin Sacs, Cat, Onslaught

== Elites ==
Doom Of Malan'tai Brood
Doom Of Malan'tai (1)
Mycetic Spore (1)
Hive Guard Brood (3)
Hive Guard Brood (3)

== Troops ==
Tervigon (1) - Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, AG, Toxin Sacs, Cat, Onslaught, Taken As Troops
Tervigon (1) - Crushing Claws, Cluster Spines, AG, Toxin Sacs, Cat, Onslaught, Taken As Troops
Termagant Brood (10)
Termagant Brood (10)
Broodlord Brood
Broodlord (1) - Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
Genestealer (4) - Toxin Sacs
Broodlord Brood
Broodlord (1) - Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
Genestealer (4) - Toxin Sacs
== Total ==
1996 pts.


Alright, so basically, gonna spawn all my scoring units. My 3 Tervy's will roll on Biomancy and be super.

The Swarmlord I figured would go Telekinesis until I got Gate then rest on Biomancy... or should I just go straight for Biomancy?

The Broodlords I don't know what to do with... scout? Outflank? No clue... but they'll probably roll away their abilities onto... ok I don't know what to do with them. I've heard calls for both Telepathy and Telekinesis... Opinions? Or should I do one of each and find out myself? I want Broodlords but no clue what to do with them.

The other major thing concerns broodlords as well. I figure they will just beeline for any ICs and challenge them. Does this mean I should swap out the Toxin Sacs on the whole unit in favor of Implant Attack in hopes of IDing enemy ICs and sergeants?

I don't plan on swapping the Doom's ability out. 1 roll is taking too much of a chance... although rolling Iron Arm would be super cheesy... What do y'all do? Take the chance? I mean he normally dies on the turn he comes down anyways, so why not take the 17% chance of making him godly?

First 6th edition list so feel free to rip it apart. Definitely want to keep at least a broodlord unit and the Doom though.

[rendy]

This is pretty much the list I'm trying to build up to (with models) at the moment, except I'm using a flying tyrant instead of a swarmlord.

I've been running a 1500 pts version of this with one tervigon and Ymgarls in place of one of the hive guard broods and found it to be quite good. I've been sticking to biomancy for all psychers except for the doom where I use the power from the book. Deciding how to run the broodlord/genestealer units is tricky. I've tried outflanking in a few games but see that it has the potential to go really bad if I get the wrong table edge or no cover from shooting.

Next game I'll try running them up alongside the tervigon. I'm thinking that my opponent will focus his fire on the tervigon and perhaps the termagants such that they will survive. I would stick with toxin sacs on them. Scything talons on the broodlord has worked well for me.

[emoge]

Hmm... thanks for the input on the broodlords Rendy. I was flipflopping on the Swarmlord going Biomancy first until I got a few things I like then taking a chance with any extra skills on Telepathy for some of the WC 2 abilities.

Definitely thinking running the broodlord groups up could work as well, as they'll have the Tervigons to soak hits and guant screens.

[rendy]

Let me know how your games go!

[Sezar]

Bear in mind that Doom won't be able to cast Iron Arm (or any other buff/debuff) as it's got to be cast at the start of the Movement Phase. In my book, Telepathy is the winning one for me, even if it's only for its Primaris.

[emoge]

Nov 9, 2012 8:22:47 GMT Sezar said:

Bear in mind that Doom won't be able to cast Iron Arm (or any other buff/debuff) as it's got to be cast at the start of the Movement Phase. In my book, Telepathy is the winning one for me, even if it's only for its Primaris.

This is only for the first turn he comes down though while deep striking, correct? Why would he be unable in later turns?

[Jabberwocky]

Correct, just the turn he arrives.

Overall it looks fine.

I'd keep TS on the Broodlord groups, it'll help in more situations than IA (as nice as it is). I always infiltrate mine now, out of synapse so they can go to ground for 2+/3+ cover, supporting with powers as your wall of bodies advances.

TP is good for suppression and completely safe for Broodlords as they will always get 1+ usable power and usually 1+ useful one. Bio is more powerful though thanks to endurance. TK is situational but again powerful if it goes right, thanks to OM, Dome and Gate.

Swarmlord is usually best with Bio until he gets Iron or End, then try out anything else you fancy. I don't bother with TP on him though as the WC2 powers aren't worth not being able to endurance or iron arm, in my opinion.

I'd consider dropping 2 Tyrant Guard though if you do find yourself with Iron Arm as majority rules really help out. Once you are down to just the Swarmlord you can even use fleet from warp speed. Does he really need guards with all those troop Tervs soaking fire too?

[emoge]

I was noticing that a lot the other day Jabber, I had 3 Tyrant guard and all I wanted was for 2 of them to die as T6 was really annoying when my Swarmlord had T7-9.

I think I will drop 2 in favor of other things, either IA just as point sinks, devourers on the termagants, or more genestealers to help my Broodlords survive more than 1 turn.

[Moontyranid]

and now one group of gk termenators and you are doomed

[emoge]

I'm facing GK's today, so I fully expect to get rolled with all their anti-psyker stuff.

[emoge]

Playing GK with the list above with the changeJabber suggested. Hammer and Anvil meant he took out 1.5 Tervigon's turn 1 so set the tone for the whole match. Also, didn't roll over 5 for any of my charges which meant I didn't hit combat until turn 4, and even with T7-9 strength 10 attacks are strong. Forgot Doom until Turn 4 which would've changed the game for me (he had Iron Arm so sat at 10 wounds the 2 turns he was there).

Grey Knights are overpowered but it was still an extremely fun game even with the loss.

Edit: And Broodlords once again did pretty much nothing... I really REALLY want them to be good, but I just don't see them doing anything for me. Might just drop them for more termagants or Devourers.

[commandersasha]

The majority wound thing means Swarmy, 1 TG and a Prime is the best build; if you lose a BL brood, can you add 10 Terms and move the Tervigon to troops, and make room for a Prime?

[emoge]

Sasha, that's the EXACT thing I was going to try out on Wednesday ^_^ Great minds think alike!

[GuardDog78]

Yeah...and if you get to a double FOC and want a real point sink..throw a PoM in there too... ;-)

[emoge]

I hate gargoyles with a passion though >_< Zero plans on ever getting the models