Dangerous Terrain

[hymenopteran]

I only did a cursory search before posting this so if this thread exists already, I apologize.

I had to re-read this to make sure but it seems like the 6th ed. "Move Through Cover" USR makes units who possess it auto pass dangerous terrain tests.

Since the bulk of Tyranid units have this rule, either directly or from the unit type (MC), could the Nids make the board itself our ally? Declaring all the terrain we deploy as either dangerous or mysterious could let us to funnel our prey into the open. It could also aid in negating the lack of grenades.

One other thought has been floating around in my brain for a bit and I'm not sure if I am interpreting this correctly. Are Flying Monstrous Creatures considered to be Monstrous Creatures with extra abilities or something separate.

Assuming all the MC rules apply to FMCs, and my reading of Move Through Cover is accurate, then what is stopping me from moving my gliding Flyrant/Harpy between sets of area terrain for cover saves while happily ignoring the Dangerous Terrain Test for starting or ending a flight in cover?

[gigasnail]

you can move your FMC in swoop mode over/into whatever terrain you wish, they ignore it.

you're not getting around lack of grenades with move through cover; all it does is autopass your dangerous terrain test and give you that extra die, you still get boned on initiative if you pass through terrain during your charge move (but not if you move through it during your movement phase, which i found out last night).

and i dunno but i don't see many opponents agreeing to let half of the terrain placed (if alternating placement) be dangerous/mysterious.

[Jabberwocky]

Yes to all your questions on DT.

Remember though DT allows armour/FnP now so it isn't as scary (except to vehicles).

While gliding you are MC (jump). While swooping you are FMC.

You always have the MC rules though for all intents and purposes. Area terrain is definitely your friend (except most mysterious forests!).

If you have some control over terrain, try and get water. Most of those are good for us.

[yoritomo]

I'd like to point out that mysterious terrain is not dangerous terrain. Just because mysterious terrain can hurt you like dangerous terrain does not make it dangerous terrain.

[swarmy]

Wait I think something just clicked...tell me if this is right: So if a mycetic spore deep-strikes into difficult terrain it would normally turn it to dangerous terrain causing a test. A mycetic spore is a monstrous creature which has move through cover which in turn negates that test. Is that right? Or is this one of those instances they shrewdly FAQ'ed to nerf us?

[Jabberwocky]

Spores and indeed disembarking gants are immune to the DT tests for deepstriking now.

[silentdeath]

Remember both spores and terms have the move through cover special rule so they ignore dangerous terrain

[rpricew]

Also, the Trygon & Mawlocs ignore the tests if they scatter into terrain too. I had an opponent try and force a Dangerous Terrain test when my Trygon scattered into a forest and I pointed it out to him in black & white "Ignores Dangerous Terrain tests"