New Hormie based list

[deathmetal4tw]

HQ:

Hive Tyrant: 230
-Scything Talons, Heavy Venom Cannon, Paroxysm, Leech Essence, Wings


Elite:


Troops

25x Hormies: 200
-Toxin Sacs

25x Hormies: 200
-Toxin Sacs

25x Hormies: 200
-Toxin Sacs

25x Hormies: 200
-Toxin Sacs

5x Warriors: 185
-Scything Talons, Deathspitters, Venom Cannon


Fast Attack:

15x Gargoyles: 90

5x Shrikes: 250
-Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons, Rending Claws

Heavy Support:

Carnifex: 190 points
-Scything Talons, HVC, Frag spines


1745 points
Model Count: 127



This is a list I made- I don't want to take tourneys or anything but I want something fairly viable: Does this work?

By the way I know there's a lot of VC hate but for personal/aesthetic reasons I'd really prefer to have them.

The plan is pretty straightforward- Send in a sea of hormagaunts to cut down (or at least tar pit) enemy infantry while I attack vehicles with my carnifex, well screened shrikes and vector striking flyrant: I hope that's enough good AT- I think it might be.

[hungerer]

Are you aware that Gargs are closer to Terms than Horms?

You have a decent amount of synapse, but it's mostly T4. I'd cut the Carnifex and get a Trygon Prime. Or maybe cut the Warriors and get some Zoanthropes, still T4 but you get invulnerable saves.

*Desperately stows HVC bashing*

[glassiya]

get your hormies AGs. Really.

[Anggul]

I wouldn't bother with AGs on the Shrikes, I always took them when Furious Charge gave you +1 Initiative, but now that it doesn't, just stick with Toxin Sacs, you're getting re-rolls against most things anyway. Also I would probably have either the Warriors or the Shrikes, both seems too much.

There's really no decent anti-tank in this list. You can't rely on the Carnifex actually getting into close combat. Even if it does, it would be too late, the vehicle will already have done it's job for enough turns. S6 Vector Strike and a couple of HVCs (which will, at best, knock off a couple of Hull Points a turn), isn't going to do much to tanks at all.

[superchum]

Hmmm... Actually this list could be fun for a tournament. Each unit of hormies takes up 225in^2 (15 x 15 in). Add in 2 more units and you have 40% of the board covered with models. Use a tervigon as HQ to make more bodies. With having to move that many models you run up the clock and never get past turn 3 while camping on all the objectives.

*edit - typo

[bugpunk]

Hahaha I love it! Would you mind if I tweaked this list a bit for my personal gaming?

[Jabberwocky]

With the MCs not having real anti tank options, the hormies *really* need AG over TS.

If you really must keep the HVC, you need to make the rest of the list more efficient to make up for it. Also check your points, that Tyrant should be more.

[rpricew]

You're asking for Viable options, and I know the Venom Cannon is your favorite... but it's NOT viable. You can NOT wreck a closed top vehicle with it. Only Glance!!

If you're going to run the Carnifex, then use him with two sets of TL Devourers (I know it may be modeled a different way, but maybe you're opponent won't mind till you can convert). He will be a nasty surprise for any backfield units that drop behind the Hormagaunt line.

Swarmlord synergizes well with Hormaguant armies since he can grant Furious Charge to a unit. If you considered adding AG to all of your Hormagaunts, that would be 200 points. That means you could get a Swarmlord for an extra 80 points. Of course you would have to throw in a guard to give him some added durability, but if you roll on Biomancy and get Iron Arm, the Swarmlord can average T8 giving him an amazing amount of durability.

Maybe consider, squeezing out one hormaguant from each unit, 5 gargoyles and dropping the Carnifex all together. The you can add the Swarmlord for his buffing/psychic abilities and that 18" Synapse bubble isn't bad either. Roll up Iron Arm/Endurance and just watch the missiles bounce off.

Swarmlord 280
Hive Tyrant (2 TL Devs, Wings) - 260

Troops:
23 Hormagaunts (TS) - 184
23 Hormagaunts (TS) - 184
23 Hormagaunts (TS) - 184
23 Hormagaunts (TS) - 184
5 Warriors (Deathspitters, Barbed Strangler) - 185?? (Don't have codex handy atm)

Fast Attack:
10 Gargoyles - 60
5 Shrikes (TS, ST, RC) - 225

1746 Points (more viable and just as fun to play)