Carnifex Options

[Ragged Warrior]

I had an Old One Eye model, but after doing some reading I took him apart and started working on a a new build for him. I decided to go shooty, but dont know if I made a good choice.

What I have now:
Enhanced Senses
Heavy Venom Canon
Twin Linked Death Spitters.



Any words of wisdom?

[riverzora]

Twin Devourers are ALWAYS better than Twin Deathspitters; and two lots of twin devourers are better than TD+HVC.

[GuardDog78]

Enhanced senses...didn't that disappear after 4th edition?

[Ragged Warrior]

I only have the one set of devourers that came in the kit, that being said, should I take off the HVC or the Deathspitters to put on the Devourers?

oh, and here are some pics:

s1276.photobucket.com/albums/y470/jwinters5275/?action=view¤t=Triggerfex3.jpg

(Named it for kicks and giggles. Let me know what you think, and thanks for the reply.)

[Deleted]

HVC and DS are both garbage. Devs put out much more, and stronger, firepower tham DS. HVC cannot wreck any vehicle unless it's open-topped. It is the king of total garbage unless all you face is Necron Warriors.

also, do you have the most recent codex? Dont mean to sound rude with that, but enhanced senses has been gone for years.

[Ragged Warrior]

I'm brand new, and saw Enhanced Senses in reading, but not in the codex. I believe I have the newest one. Why do they still include the head in the kit if it no longer means anything?

I'm trying to create a nice, well rounded Carnifex for my army. I only have 1 right now, so I need to make it count. My only options are what came in the kit. What would you suggest?

[Deleted]

The kit is the same kit they've had since the days when there were enhanced senses. As for the loadout you can take anything you'd like but competitively dual TL Devourers is the only option that isn't downright terrible and the only one you'll see the vast majority of people using. CC Carmifexen are (please do not swear) compared to CC Tervigons or Trygons, DS are much worse than Devs, HVC is aweful, and if you wanna do anti-infantry with the STC, Harpies do it far better. Which leaves you with the Dakkafa, dual TL Devourers. If you want to field whatever you think is cool, then by all means give your Carnifex whatever!

[Ragged Warrior]

What are your thoughts on Screamer Killers?

[yoritomo]

They inclued it in the kit because that kit was made for the 4th edition codex. Instead of spending money making a new carnifex kit they just let you have a bunch of extra bits to customize your carnifex.

It should be noted that the devourer on a monstrous creature is strictly better than deathspitters. This means that there is no way in which the deathspitter is less than the devourer. Points, range, strength, rate of fire, the devourer wins out. Since the devourer is strictly better it means that you should replace your deathspitter with devourers if at all possible.

The Heavy Venom Cannon on the other hand has more range and strength than the devourers. That being said I feel that the devourer is a better choice than a heavy venom cannon. The medium strength means that you will get results agains anything but heavy armored main battle tanks (which you should be trying to assault rather than shoot). Plus the high rate of fire will ensure at least a couple glancing hits, which is all you really need to destroy vehicle now.


Most people don't have four sets of MC devourers to make a true devilfex. My suggestion is to go to the conversion board and see how other people have custom made MC devourers.


And screamer killers? Alone you're better off getting a trygon. He's got more wounds and more attacks at a higher weapon skill in Intative. In order to make screamer killers worth it you have to have a brood of at least two, preferably three. The problem is that this gets expensive. And then you have to ask yourself if it's really worth the points.

[sunshine]

Screamer Killers, while not terrible at what they do, just don't compare well to our other options(Trygons, Crushigons). However, if all you have is a carnifex, I would go screamer killer if not dakka.

[Psychichobo]

On the simplest scale, converting up a second set of MC Devourers is easy because aside from the ball joint they're the same size as gaunt and warrior devourers, so it's just a case of snipping off and swapping the joints.

Mind, the conversion section has some awesome alternative ideas though. Do go look them up!

[Deleted]

^ What he said. There is a thread for MC Devourer conversions with plenty of cool ideas people have cooked up. You may get some inspiration or see one you'd like to use!

As for the Screamer Killers, if you just want the look and fluff, go for it. Not competitive by a long shot but they do look amazing!

[Ragged Warrior]

Thanks everyone! I found a concept from the conversion thread. Here's what I came up with:

s1276.photobucket.com/albums/y470/jwinters5275/?action=view¤t=2012-10-16192925_zps0f03e4b3.jpg

Let me know what you think.