Codex Alterations

[hungerer]

This is some of what I would change about the Tyranid Codex, though I am aware that Games Workshop would never do this for me. They care about money, not their customers.


Hive Guards: Still subject to Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, but may treat objectives as area terrain, and count as scoring units.

Lictors: All Lictors, including Deathleaper, may assault normally on the turn they arrive. Lictors may treat Deathleaper as an independant character.

The Doom of Malan'Tai: +90 points (180 points). No longer subject to Instinctive Behaviour - Feed, no longer fearless, Synapse Creature, Independant Character. Counts as level 2 psyker, and has standard Zoanthrope powers as well as Cataclysm, but Cataclysm counts as a 2 warp point power.

Mycetic Spores: Extend range of disembark to 6", like a transport from any other army.

Raveners: +20 points (50 points), +1 BS, -1 W. May deepstrike "into" an enemy ground-based unit during the assault phase and counts as assaulting with assault grenades. Jump units that have used their jetpacks/whatever do not count as ground-based.

Carnifexes: -40 points (120 points). May take Armoured Shell (+40 points). May treat Old One Eye as an Independant Character.

Tyrannofexes: Rupture Cannon is (Assault, Blast 2) with AP 3. Scatter is rolled once for both blasts.

Tyranid Warriors & Shrikes: -10 points (20 points & 25 points), -1 W.

Tyranid Prime: Still a brood of one, but 2 may be taken as a single HQ choice.

Enhanced Senses: Enhanced senses may (once again) be taken by Termagants and Gargoyles (+1 point), Tyranid Warriors, Shrikes and Primes (+5 points, also note that Primes do not give a +2 BS bonus to Warriors that do not have Enhanced Senses), Hive Tyrants, Carnifexes, and Tyrannofexes (+10 points)


I may edit this post in the future to add alterations I haven't thought of yet

Edit 1: Thanks for the input, guys. I've made a few alterations, but for the sake of Characters Remaining I'll be editing what's here rather than cataloging each time I change my mind.

[Raven]

Hive Guard counting as Heavy Support, they have the same role as many Heavy Support units in other armies, so why are they in the Elites section?

[zephoid]

my sig has nearly the whole codex re-balanced. Kind of hard to read since i wanted to be able to make changes easily but i never got around to re-formatting into codex form.

[biorivera]

-id drop warriors a good 10 points a pop(in all their forms).
- give the fex FnP, it shall not die, eternal warrior, and. a 6+ invuln just to make it a fortress unit. give OOE regen that makes him automatically get up after death two tyranid player turns later with one wound(and all the fex bonuses)
-venomthropes cover cloud 4+ instead of 5+.
-ymargls for fast attack?
-im not sure what to do with pyrovores.....
-tyrannofex gets skyfire.
-mawloc gets 2+ save.
-swarmlord gets 4+ invuln at all times.
-change subterranean assault to grant rerolls to reserve rolls.
-allow lictors/deathleaper to act as IC's and join squads that the lictor can deny challenges to without penalty(would make it an attempted ic assassin)
-PoMmakes all rippers count as sky slasher swarms, scoring, and cost the price of regular/vanilla rippers.
note i dont honestly suggest ALL these changes at once. just a few here and there for "balancing". if they used my venomthrope and warrior auggestions i'd lose it(in a good way). wouldnt hold my hreath for anything like the tyrannofex, PoM , or carnifex changes. the rest of the changes would be awesome without being too nuts.

[deathmetal4tw]

-I'd shave ten points and one wound off warriors.

Yeah, I get it. Warriors tend to asplode versus S8 high AP weaponry. This would be fine if we weren't paying near terminator prices for our warriors. I think 10 points would justify the loss of a wound and make for a more spammable troop choice.

-The prime could get wings and a transport

If you disagree with me jump off a bridge.

[hungerer]

biorivera: I disagree with your venomthrope suggestion. They obscure vision, but they don't block bullets.

@deathmetal: The prime can already get in a spore by joining a unit that's already in one during deployment, can't it? So long as it doesn't exceed capacity, right?

[TheContortionist]

i'd like my genestealers to work the way they did in 5th.

no but really. termagaunts should cost .5 of a point.

[guns]

Oct 16, 2012 4:26:26 GMT biorivera said:

- give the fex FnP, it shall not die, eternal warrior, and. a 6+ invuln just to make it a fortress unit. give OOE regen that makes him automatically get up after death two tyranid player turns later with one wound(and all the fex bonuses)

I agree with this ethos, but most importantly it should get +D6 Hammer of Wrath attacks. It should also get some sort of new drawback, since the aforementioned changes would make it really good. Maybe something like the old Rage or Frenzy in WHFB, allowing it to be kited by the nearest enemy. Maybe something where it does its stampede damage to friendly units in the same combat.

[biorivera]

Oct 16, 2012 8:15:37 GMT hungerer said:

biorivera: I disagree with your venomthrope suggestion. They obscure vision, but they don't block bullets.

@deathmetal: The prime can already get in a spore by joining a unit that's already in one during deployment, can't it? So long as it does if it hasn't exceed capacity, right?

they wouldnt really be blocking bullets. the rulebook i feel is pretty clear that successful. cover saves might even represent that the firer didnt get a shot he liked so he didnt take it. if you think itd be too much though i understand.

also my understanding is primes cannot get in mycetic spores(unless they changed this since 6th came out).

if you disagree with me, erm....go......put on a hat

edit: warriors for 10 points less is an idea i like, but i PERSONALLYp would never field them if they had 1w a pop. Yes they're an ID target, but typically when i play people warriors are not what theyre throwigng their big guns at off the bat. but i use warriors fairly sparingly now so i can't say it'd be a big change. like if they kept currwnt points and stock gained +1T i could validate them though

contortionists suggestion about gaunts i can respect from a fluff perspective. we already get one of the better scoring units in the game for troops for every squad of gaunts we field though, i feel this would pour into the realm of too good(because hey drop podding 20 devilgaunts is a tactic that isn't shelved yet.

in retrospect i like the OP's mycetic spore change a lot