Invisible Fexstar?

[malevoiyslayer]

I was wondering if anyone has tried using a Swarmlord to try and get Invisibility to cast on a Carnifex Deathstar with attached Prime and a nearby Venomthrope for cover?

I read about it awhile back but haven't heard anything since. I'll be running two Tervigons in this list as well so if I don't get invisibility I will still have a durable unit with cover and FNP. Hopefully I'll be able to roll endurance for a Tervigon as well. Anyway, I don't expect anyone to be prepared for Nids at the next tourney I plan to attend and wanted to surprise them accordingly.

Thoughts? Does this deathstar work?

[Deleted]

It'll do exactly what you think it will, a Fex/Prime unit with really good cover. Not much to say about it, although I don't think its the best 550ish you can spend. It'll be mediocre in CC for what it costs and if you go dakka it's still inefficient unless you're facing large foot blobs or squadrons of lighter AV. But hey, I could be off. If you have the models then why not try it out and give us a batrep? You can be the one to answer the question. If you do run it, give it a few goes before judging it.

[jofan32]

Someone suggested that to me but use invisibility on old one eye I'm very tempted to try it just see what happens

[t⊗theark]

Oct 14, 2012 5:36:45 GMT @60mm said:

It'll be mediocre in CC for what it costs and if you go dakka it's still inefficient unless you're facing large foot blobs or squadrons of lighter AV.

Even anough shots in a brood to concern flyers. Anti: Light armour, infantry units and flyers? Sounds like a bit of an asset in 6th edition.

[Jabberwocky]

The problem is you then leave Swarmlord with no warp charge to buff himself so he will just get blown away first, then they will kill the Fexes once invis is down.

If the Tervs buff Swarmlord then you have no buffs on the Tervs, and your troops will be wiped out instead.

I find you need enough support units to protect everything, otherwise it is often a waste to put insane defence onto a unit.

Remember also; divination allows an ignore cover shot, which can happily sit in krak spam wiping out that fex star regardless.

[drummerboy]

Yea I agree with Jabberwocky. Also after all that you have over 800 pts (2 carnifexes, prime, SL, venomthrompe) a turn going into a blob that kills one unit/turn. I think that there are a lot better combos in our codex that could do the same job more efficiently.

[malevoiyslayer]

Thanks for the input. I'll have to try it out and see what happens I guess. Thanks for the Divination info. I didn't know about that. That's pretty intimidating. Hopefully FNP will help me out there along with the Regenerating Prime.

Drummerboy, what do you recommend to fill the same role as the Fexstar?

[Jabberwocky]

Well what do you want out of it? Simply running another 2 fex will double their durability at around the same cost as a Swarmy and venomthrope...


Personally if I want tons of dakka I'd be using tyrants/Flyrants who bring their own IA/end along with either 2+ armour or hard to hit.

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[drummerboy]

I'd run a couple of podded fexxes and a dakka flyrant or two. That still should come in around 800-900 pts. and on the turn your pods come in you can guarantee 2 dead vehicles (in most cases you can get rear/side armor) and having 4 MC's + 2 flyers buzzing around your side of the table is a lot harder to deal with than one blob running straight at you. This is compounded by the fact that having 4-6 separate units (pods kill stuff too sometimes) means you can kill 4-6 different targets. More offense for you, harder defense for them, roughly the same points.

Obviously what you want out of the list is up to you and my suggestion above might not fit your tastes. I was just using it as an example. The swarmstar I think would be the best way to run the SL...though I haven't tried it yet. It looks way strong on paper. You could then support that by a couple of dakkafexxes, biovores and hive guard...

SL, guard
Prime (460)

dakkafex x2 (380) run them separate
x2 biovores (90)

That's 930 pts. and still a pretty tough setup with way more firepower (considering you have the SL...). Having the biovores reliable horde damage gives the devourers a little more freedom to shoot at more valuable targets.

Good Luck

[bobnik]

I've been using SL + 3x Guard (boneswords) for my "Invisible Blob of Blue Murder".
So far (3 games) they've been a wonder to behold, ripping apart every unit getting close enough to them.

I'm waiting for my local gamers to come up with a good enough counter to this unit.

Comment on Fexstar version:
If you have spent an ungodly amount of points on SL + retinue, you'll be hard pressed to get the points for the Fexstar too without letting the army as a whole suffer.