Trygon's Subterranean Assault

[disband85]

I have a couple of questions about the subterranean assault.

1. If it scatters on impassable terrain or models, reduce the scatter distance by the minimum required to avoid the obstacle. Does this include if it scatters off the table?
2. Due to the above, does this mean you never have to roll on the deep strike mishap table?
3. Can a unit arriving from reserves in the same turn as the trygon use the trygon's tunnel?

[rpricew]

1. NO
2. Yes, you will have to roll on the table if you scatter off of the table.
3. NO

Trygon Tunnel = Pretty much cool fluff, but very little use game wise...

Is useful in Apocalypse games when you purchase Subterranean Swarm and have Raveners follow the Trygon through the hole!

[disband85]

Hmm ok. So with reserves coming in on rolls of 2+ with hive commander, there's a good chance most reserves are going to arrive in turn 2, rendering your trygon's tunnel useless.

Can you choose not to roll for a reserve to come on?

[blindmage]

you could always take a aegis line with a Comms Relay and reroll trying to get a fail on everything else and a pass for the Trygon..

[Deleted]

You must roll for reserves and HC forces you to add +1 to reserve rolls. ADL w/ADL let's you choose to reroll reserve rolls so you can rerolls successes and hope for fails if you wish.

Overall, do yourself a favor and forget about Subteranean Assault. Atleast until the next codex possibly takes a swing at fixing it.

[halvar]

remember things like warp quake for the grey knights forces mishaps aswell, so not only scattering off the table (and placing the model on other models first).

[coredump]

*IF* you want to use SA, then go with the Com Relay and skip HC.

You have a pretty darn good chance of Trygon on T2, and other units waiting until Turn 3 and 4.

[N.I.B.]

The name, 'Subterrainian Assault' irks me. It sounds menacing, but it's a joke. 'Subterrainian Meh' would be a proper name.

[powy]

Oct 12, 2012 14:03:55 GMT coredump said:

*IF* you want to use SA, then go with the Com Relay and skip HC.

Doesn't the faq state that nids can't use the Com Relay?

[Deleted]

Nope, just states we can't use the guns.

[powy]

Oh boy, i'm confused.

I was pretty sure i read we couldn't use the Com Relay, and went to check again.
In the italian FAQ (my language) the question sounds pretty much like "furthermore, are they able to manual fire emplaced weapons or use the Com Relay?", while switching to the USA one it's "furthermore, are they able to manual fire emplaced weapons or weapon emplacements?".
Answer is no for everything.

Weird.
And sorry for going ot, but i don't have the english BRB, does "emplaced weapons" and "weapons emplacements" exclude the Aegis gun? Because in the italian one going RAW i can still use it.
Ah, bot FAQs are 1.1.

[Deleted]

Sucks for Italy.

[disband85]

In any case subterranean assault wouldn't have helped me anyway. My trygon rolled a 1 in turn 2, my 3 other reserve units rolled 2+.