1500 pt list, some opinions on which option

[dwez]

So I've got four 1500pt lists here with the major differences glowing. I'd originally thought to take a Hive Tyrant but felt two Tervigons are more durable. I also feel I should definitely have the Defence Line because it looks cool as opposed to necessarily being a winning tool. I want to include the WQuad gun but given the FAQ feel it would be pointless. I've ended up with only one list with it in because most armies I've played have only had one flyer but if I face more without it I'll definitely be dead in the water with only cover saves to try and keep me alive. Anyway here are the four and my individual thoughts.


This is probably my most standard force and one I'm most familiar with. Ymgarls for deployment zone shenanigans. Hormagaunts as my meat shield but only 5 stealers which is a bit weak.

HQ
Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
2x Hive Guard(s)
[glow=red,2,300] 5x Ymgarl Genestealer(s) [/glow] 1x Zoanthrope(s)
Troops
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
10x Termagaunts with Devourer
Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
[glow=red,2,300]12x Hormagaunts[/glow]
3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
[glow=red,2,300]Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
5x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands,[/glow]

Heavy Support
Trygon
Fortifications
Aegis Defence Line

Swapping out the Ymgarls for more durable brood of stealers, but losing on the in your face dangers. Only 11 Hormagaunts this time but I get the Quad Gun, if I can use it and alternatively I could add a 3rd Hive Guard to instantly fix the list if it wasn't acceptable.

HQ
Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
2x Hive Guard(s)
1x Zoanthrope(s)
Troops
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
10x Termagaunts with Devourer
Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
[glow=red,2,300]11x Hormagaunts[/glow] 3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
[glow=red,2,300]8x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands, [/glow]Heavy Support
Trygon with
Fortifications
Aegis Defence Line
[glow=red,2,300]Quad gun

[/glow]

Given the success of the Doom in a recent match he still has the ability to inflict carnage but is he too much and suicidal? Back with the Ymgarls but Hormies and Stealers are as small a unit as they can be and possibly First Blood fodder!

HQ
Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
2x Hive Guard(s)
[glow=red,2,300]5x Ymgarl Genestealer(s)
The Doom of Malan’tai with Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles, [/glow]Troops
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
10x Termagaunts with Devourer
[glow=red,2,300]10x Hormagaunts[/glow] 3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
[glow=red,2,300]4x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands, [/glow]Heavy Support
Trygon
Fortifications
Aegis Defence Line

Just a list thrown in, reduced Stealers but with added Broodlord make them a little more durable and more Psychic powers to throw around.

HQ
Tyranid Prime with Lashwhip and Bonesword, Deathspitter, Synapse Creature,
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
Elites
2x Hive Guard(s)
1x Zoanthrope(s)
Troops
Tervigon with Catalyst, Dominion, Synapse Creature, Stinger Salvo, Crushing Claws
10x Termagaunts with Devourer
Mycetic Spore with Hardened Carapace, Lash Whip, Ripper tentacles,
12x Hormagaunts
3x Tyranid Warriors with Barbed Strangler, Deathspitter, Scything Talons,
[glow=red,2,300] Broodlord with Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons ,
4x Genestealers with Adrenal Glands,
Broodlord with Toxin Sacs,
4x Genestealers with Toxin Sacs,[/glow]

Heavy Support
Trygon
Fortifications
Aegis Defence Line

So there we go, your help is appreciated. I could always bin off the Hormagaunts altogether, they're never as effective as I wish them to be but they're useful in going forwards through cover and backed up by the Stealers could be effective in flanking. Alternatively I could swap them for 10 Gargoyles to hold back and use for Linebreaker but I hate using the models - they're so fiddly. Ultimately It will have Hive Guard, Warriors, Tervigons and Trygons with Devgaunts and a pod but if anyone can play around with the remainder please do. I had thought about Regeneration on a Tervigon also or perhaps save a couple of points by switching to Scything Talons on one, given as that's how it's modelled. The Defence Line would be nice but I'm wondering if 50 point elsewhere may be better, I can still put it on my trays for the army and people can "aahh!" But I'm not sure if using it may risk whatever chances I have thanks to weak units. Thoughts appreciated

[scrotatohead]

My blanket selection for all of your lists is to drop the Hormagaunts, pick up a squad of 10 Termagants, and then make your HQ Tervigon a Troops Tervigon. With Tervigon buffs the Termagants are better than the Hormagaunts as a meat shield, and you have the added bonus of both Tervigon being able to hold objectives.

If you do face a lot of flyers you might want to tailer a list by replacing one Tervigon with a Flyrant armed with dual devourers. A solid option for taking down an opponent's air cover with much more flexibility than a Defense Line.

[dwez]

cheers scrotatohead. Haven't got the Flyrant so will have to stick with the figures I've got. I may do as you say, the hormies rarely perform as I hope. I will probably go with a combination of the last two with two 4 man units of Genestealers and their broodlord. I'm thinking it's better to have the broodlord in their than 3 other bodies. I'm also going to take the Doom, hopefully something psychic will get Iron Arm and I'm hoping to use it on him so he can't be insta-killed and just go round decimating anything he can see.

I'll look at swapping the termagants as you suggest, need to see how many I've got and have enough to spawn. One other alternative is 10 gargoyles, hoping to keep them alive long enough to steal line-breaker but that's a big ask - 5 turns to stay alive, although I can deep strike them to keep them alive a little longer... Although I hate using the figures as they're too fiddly!