IG Armoured Sentinels

[coredump]

Oct 8, 2012 23:37:47 GMT @60mm said:

Page 84, "Walkers assault, and are assaulted, like infantry models..." The part about not being able to charge vehicles you can't hurt, like Landraiders, makes sense as you can't lock them in CC either so charging one is pointless.

Hmmm... nice quote.

Now I think.... even if you read it as I do above, which would disallow charging a vehicle if you can't hurt it.... the distinction between a walker and other vehicles would seem to allow that.

Coolness....

[N.I.B.]

The question came up in the tournament last weekend. Since the strange FAQ answer on pg3

Q: Can I charge an enemy unit that I can’t hurt? (p20)
A: Yes.

you can charge anything. "Unit" covers all models in 40K. That's how it was ruled for us at least.

About Walkers, what has changed from 5th ed, how are they harder to hurt in combat? I've never noticed because Hive Guards annihilates them so fast.

[bacchusgreenman]

Page 84 in bold type;

"Models hitting a Walker in close combat always roll for armour penetration against its front armour unless it has been Immobilised"

Armoured Sentinels have front armour of 12.

I personally don't use Hive Guard as I don't have any models - and probably won't unless I can find some kind of substitute. I flat out refuse to pay $50AU for a single mini unless it comes close to being the size of the house I live in and a brood (2-3) for that matter? Not going to happen GW.

[N.I.B.]

Oct 9, 2012 10:26:48 GMT bacchusgreenman said:

"Models hitting a Walker in close combat always roll for armour penetration against its front armour unless it has been Immobilised"

So what differs from 5th ed? As I remember I've always fought Dreads against front armour.

[Raven]

Oct 9, 2012 10:26:48 GMT bacchusgreenman said:

Page 84 in bold type;

"Models hitting a Walker in close combat always roll for armour penetration against its front armour unless it has been Immobilised"

Armoured Sentinels have front armour of 12.

I personally don't use Hive Guard as I don't have any models - and probably won't unless I can find some kind of substitute. I flat out refuse to pay $50AU for a single mini unless it comes close to being the size of the house I live in and a brood (2-3) for that matter? Not going to happen GW.

Speaking as an Aussie gamer myself, never buy retail, shop online. I got my Hive Guard for something like $25 each.

[gloomfang]

Oct 9, 2012 4:08:30 GMT @60mm said:

The only time you can't charge a building is if it is unoccupied and when unoccupied emplaced weapons can't autofire, so it doesn't matter.

Vehicles rules specify that you have to have a chance of at least glancing it to charge. Fortifications say they follow vehicle rules for assualts. I'll have to dig out page numbers when I get home.

If someone has a contrasting Pg for a rule that lets me do it I'll take that too.

[gloomfang]

Oct 9, 2012 8:13:25 GMT N.I.B. said:

you can charge anything. "Unit" covers all models in 40K. That's how it was ruled for us at least.

About Walkers, what has changed from 5th ed, how are they harder to hurt in combat? I've never noticed because Hive Guards annihilates them so fast.

Fortifications are not units. Neither are gun emplacements.

[N.I.B.]

I don't care about Fortifications, but Walkers are units.