First installment

[thatnidguy]

I know i have posted a few things already and i honestly enjoy the feed back i have had. I have learned from the advice i have been given and I wanted to post a few different ideas of list that have been floating in my head. I know most may only see just a list but I kinda plan out my attack and movement. And yes i know it doesnt always work as planned. So I get i will Post my 1st list. and please be honest . I want to "TRY" to avoid the tervigon and guant spam if i can but the more i see it... it becomes more solid. Oh and i am aiming for 2k. not every list is 2k . One last thing, i know i lack troops im working on it.

3 Carnifex
-6x TL devourers

570

tyranid prime
-LW/BS
-regen

105

Tyrant
-2x TL devouers
- Old adviserary
(2 Bio powers )

225

tyrant guard
-BS

165

2x zoanthrope -
-spore
--TL deathspitter
160

DOM
spore

130

stealers
-ST

128

21x Hguants

120


trygon

30x gargoyles

[Illithid]

Try to set out your list in order of Army Slots - makes it hard to decipher. (Aim for 1999pts also so you are not hitting duel Force Organisation).

A few things, do not list individual point costs (against forum regulations), just post total unit point cost. The whole army only comes to 1980pts btw.

The Prime I would run with your Carnifex - give him a Deathspitter.

The biggest issue I see is you are VERY light on troops. What is going to hold your objectives (they make up 5/6 of the missions)? One tervigon is not spamming it - normally you will only get 200 odd gaunts out of the one Tervigon.

I think you will struggle to win games with the current list, but it will be fun.

[thatnidguy]

ok so other then Super light on troops.... and not knowing how to post a list right..

is the list ok ?

[Illithid]

No, because 5/6 games are objective games. It will be fun, but not sure if competitive. Hormagaunts and genestealers are major issues holding objectives.

There are no glaring mistakes in the list though.

[thatnidguy]

Would just running 1 tervigon be ok? to hold objectives? what are you thoughts on Hormaguants? I will tweak the list and repost.

[scrotatohead]

Running one Tervigon is okay, but not great. I ran one during 5th Edition, and really resisted going with two because of the who SPAM label. I'm finding in 6th Edition though, that two, maybe even three isn't SPAM, it's a reflection of the way the game has changed. in 5th it was all about relying on your Hive Guard for shooting and then getting the rest of your army into close combat. Now it's really, really hard to assault. The game is tailored for shooting, and our staple troops for shooting are termagants. So buffed termagants escorted across the field by their psychic creators is the way to go. Tervigons are scoring units, create scoring units, buff them so they can survive, and can throw out some very effective psychic attacks. With the right powers you can not only hold objectives with a Tervigon, you can rush out and take them from your opponent, leaving Termagants in your wake to hold other objectives. It's hard not to justify fielding a pair or more. Is it Cheesy? Ask your Long Fang spamming or Gray Knight fielding opponent. I think it's only reasonable.

One troop option that I'm finding very effective is sporing in 15-20 Devourer Termagants. They can make short order of enemy infantry units, have enough shots to glance a Leman Russ to death, and enough models to be seen as a genuine threat when you drop them behind your opponent's position. They'll make their points back in the first volley. Few other options put out that kind of fire power, that quickly.

Hormagaunts are decent. I love the models and the look of a swarm on the field. But again, it's a shooting rule set now and Hormagaunts will get cut down in waves before they get into combat. If you're going to field them you need to have another assault threat close by. Maybe use them as a screen for Raveners. That's an effective one-two punch. Or slash as the case may be. Just keep some synapese behind them in case they break from a mucked up assault. You don't want your infantry blob running off the board.

And as a note, genestealers took a couple hard kicks in the extended carapace. They can't assault when Outflanking. Cover isn't as good as it was before. They have to absorb Overwatch fire, which while it isn't going to take out the whole unit, could drop a model or three before the assault even starts. They were great in 5th edition; their only good in 6th.

I like Warriors, but only to hold an objective. Never to attack with. They're just too fragile when it comes to enemy heavy weapons.