Mieotic Spore Sacks

[greycladstranger]

Is IMPERIAL ARMOUR VOLUME FOUR where I can find the rules for these? Also does anyone know if they can be used in standard 40 K games. Just wanted to know before I invested in the book. Thanks.

[Deleted]

Most recently they are in IA Apoc 2nd Ed. and are 40k approved.

[greycladstranger]

Thanks 60. I recently picked up a NIB nid army that included 6 of these and was interested in using them and seeing how effective they were.

[Deleted]

I haven't used them but they look great on paper. They are 35 points, must enter via deepstrike and move like a Spore Mine but you get to choose the direction. They go off at s5 ap3 with a large blast and then leave behind d6-2 Spore Mines in it's place.

[greycladstranger]

Wow not to shabby. Thanks again!

[Talonis]

Didn't they have better rules before the update as anti air units? Pretty sure they moved after flyers moved and if they come into contact with any point along the flight line they exploded and hit the flyer. Also they had the flyer rule , which would be hard to hit.
The new update has removed any of this and they are now just normal units.

Do they explode if they deepstrike ontop of a unit? Or mishap like normal?

[Davor]

They are not 40K approved yet. By that I mean, anyone can refuse to play you if they wanted to.

Since I don't have the IA book, does it say it can be used as if it were in your codex?

[Illithid]

Davor, it states that they are 40k Approved in the IA Codex. Nowhere does it say in any W40k rulebook / codex that you can not use Forgeworld miniatures. If my opponent was going to be that picky about it, that is not someone I want to play. No one has to buy/use them, but why rob someone of the opportunity to field an unusual unit???

I think it is fair that you let them know you have some Forgeworld models, but from what I have seen of them (Tau, Marines, Chaos and Tyranids), they are fairly ordinary and not remotely game changing.

[Davor]

Thanks Illithid. Just wanted to make sure. Now the question is, since it's Imperial Armour Apocolypse, does that mean can it be used in a non apocolypse game? Are these usnits and rules just suppose to be for Apocalypse type games and not a standard under 2000 point game?

I agree, anyone who would refuse to play wouldn't be fun playing at all. It does go the other way around as well and your opponent may not be prepared to go agaisnt an IA unit, no matter if it's good or bad.

Maybe because where I play, we all use one codex, guess that changed with 6th edition now with allies, but usually you don't use what is not in your codex. I guess that will all change soon, and we just need to get use to it now.

[Deleted]

IA Apoc 2nd ed says which are Apoc approved and which are 40k approved. For Tyranids it lists;
Apoc Approved
Scythed Hierodule
Harridan

40k Approved
Malanthrope
Meiotic Spore
Stonecrusher Carnifex

Not sure why they left out the Barbed Hierodule and Hierophants

[Davor]

Is this book really worth getting? For reading fluff, and using the 3 units as 60mm said? (or is it 6cm? )

[Illithid]

It is not worth it unless you really want to play Apocalypse. Some of the other IA book like Battle fro Vraks etc have some great stories and fluff in them.

[t⊗theark]

They're a great priority kill unit. You think those plasma devs are going to give you trouble in the back friend? Eat this fast attack slot. That far seer's coumcil with all those boosting powers a little out of reach? Eat this fast attack slot. You want some crazy nob bikers to finally take a casualty? Eat this fast attack slot.

And they're not like a pop singer who released that one good song, no one hit wonders here for they leave more spore mines!

[Talonis]

Why does the hierophant always get left out for updates? It's probably the only Tyranid unit which needs an FAQ! At least 3-4 updates/FAQ have come out for these apoc units and not once have the major issues been resolved. Biggest one being warp field.

[coredump]

Oct 2, 2012 22:30:12 GMT Illithid said:

Davor, it states that they are 40k Approved in the IA Codex. Nowhere does it say in any W40k rulebook / codex that you can not use Forgeworld miniatures.

Hey, No where does it say in any W40K rulebook that I can't use Vampire Counts models. And if I use their rules, I can even start casting magic.
Awesome!

Of course, it also doesn't say I can't use my GI Joe models and the rules my neighbor made up for them.... and you wouldn't want to stop me from using such an 'unusual' model would you? What a lousy player you would be for doing that....

Reread your statement... Yes *Forgeworld* said they were 40K approved... but notice how 40K never said anything of the sort. (And they just printed new rules.... never mentioned allowing GI Joe, nor Vampire Counts, nor Magic, nor Forgeworld models.....)