T.Prime no longer Krak sponge?

[Deleted]

I was reading some of the LRB which I recently attained, and while reading the multiple toughness values section for the shooting phase I realized the T.Prime can no longer soak up Kraks for warriors. Even if he is in front, it's pretty clear that wounds are rolled against majority toughness, then allocated starting with closest. Wouldn't this mean a T.Prime would get IDd by a Krak? Is there something I'm missing? I hope so. Without being able to soak kraks, their only use I can see is deathstar wound allocation abuse.

[infornography]

You roll against majority toughness so if for instance a strength 6 gun were fired at them he would get wounded on a 2, but you still get ID'd by your individual toughness when the wound is applied.

[fleetofclaw]

So the answer is, don't fret, primes can still take a krak to the chin for your warriors.

[Deleted]

Yeesh, still a slight nerf. Like Warriors need more nerfage.

[N.I.B.]

Sept 20, 2012 7:55:48 GMT @60mm said:

Yeesh, still a slight nerf.

What is nerfed?

[grarik]

Wasn't it majority toughness in 5th as well? As far as I can tell, the only difference now is that the prime has to be at the front, rather then anywhere in the unit

[Lanesend]

I think the bigger nerf for him (or actually for Warriors) is that you have to LO,S to the nearest model, instead of anywhere in 6 inch.
OTOH, other armies could abuse this a lot worse (Draigo with Paladins come to mind), so it's probably for the best.

The only Nids suffering from that are Warriors with a Prime and Carnifexes with a Prime. And they are not really used in competative lists.

[fleetofclaw]

Just keep three warriors at the same distance from your prime (handy two inch wide ruler), when a new wound pool rolls around pick a different warrior to bounce wounds with. Might have to double check but that should be doable.

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[coredump]

Goes against other similar rules. In all other instances, once a 'closest' model is picked, it stays that way, at least until the wound pool empties.

[fragile]

If both models are equidistant, then you would randomize who gets the wounds. You wouldnt get to just pick a new model, although it might work out that way.

[coredump]

Well, when it happens in shooting, I believe it is randomized; when it happens in CC I believe it is picked.

But regardless, once chosen, it stays that way.

[wisdomseyes1]

Sept 21, 2012 2:19:02 GMT coredump said:

Well, when it happens in shooting, I believe it is randomized; when it happens in CC I believe it is picked.

But regardless, once chosen, it stays that way.

On page 15 of the rulebook it suggests you pick the order (under Allocate Unsaved wounds and remove casualties)

The only randomization I can find is when 2 models can't very well be determined to be the closest.