1k vs necrons

[mash]

I'm playing my opponent in a couple of days and though it's fun it is competitive. He likes to tie my troops up with scarabs and always fields those tomb spiders that spit them out (2 at the least). Thankfully he's never flyer heavy but he does have a nightmare of a lord (mind scarabs and the really good combat weapon that I've forgotten the name of) who always kills my MC's. The odd Wraith (3++ save is a pain) and squads of necrons are usually the lot (never vehicle heavy).

As for me...
Prime, bone swords, spine fists.
Hive guard - 3
Zoanthrope
3 tyranid warriors - deathspitters, barbed strangler
20 termagants, tervigon
12 hormagants
20 gargoyles
3 biovores

My plan is to tie up his units early with the gargoyles giving the rest time to advance. it's all designed to bog down (hormagant, endless termagants) whilst my real killer (hive guard, zoey) stuff wipes out anything that can cause me problems. Synapse is important hence the warriors and zoan. Any suggestions welcome. apologies if I've got any necron stuff wrong too.

[Deleted]

Have you thought about using VC with the Warriors instead of BS? Nice for Necron Warriors, no armor save and wounds on 2+.

[mash]

I was tempted by the pinning but I recon your right.

[NidsAndMarines]

Try not to rush into combat with anything that has MSS, just torrent them away.

As for scarabs, any S6+ attacks ID them, or with a quick 'Enfeeble' they fall over like nobody's business to just S4.

Hard to pin those Ld10 crons - just hit them with something stronger, make them go away. If they all fall down, they can't get back up

'Nids & Marines.

[mash]

just for the record the guy turned up with space wolves instead and i got I strongly disagree handed to me. I don't think i killed a single unit.

[jahatch42878]

I was going to ask about your lack of anti-vehicle and 2+ or 3+ armor save units... I would think (other than zoanthrope and bone swords on the prime) that you need some armor penetration ... rending claws? maybe some genestealers? because against Space Marines, chaos marines, & Necron characters/specials you don't have much to handle armor.. any biomorphs? what about poison on the gargoyles or gaunts to help against T4 models?

Also, with the prime, I would personally want a 2nd unit of warriors as a back up plan in case one units gets fried early on... otherwise you really just have one big 4 model prime target in the middle of your army looking to get blasted with any S8 weapon templates... I think your army would be great fun against another horde (orks, non-tank heavy IG) and could probably swarm some other armies like eldar and tau like your battle plan suggests, but yeah, against necrons or marines (and space wolves or even blood angels who's melee is potent) you don't really have units to take those out so much...

Although you say you got p'wned by the wolves, did you make any huge errors in deployment or tactics in hind sight or was it just a bad list to come up against?? (I ask b/c one of my regular opponents is looking at Space Wolves and I want some early warnings!!) - Josh

[mash]

My list wasn't great but neither was my tactics. I thought I'd get in combat quicker and ignored his long fangs with my gargoyles. Stupid move they killed my tervigon and zoanthrope by turn 2.

He had a combat heavy army but I didn't have anything that could get through his armor. Hive guard and biovores did nothing ( I'd be surprised if they killed 5 marines between them). Gargoyles poisoned attacks help but it's still got to get through a 3+ plus save. all the combat went the same way i would pile loads of troops in and he'd cut them down and break what was left.

Killing the Zoan and tervigon took all my synapse from one side of the board.

He had a couple of guys and gadgets that hurt too, combat mean characters. Rune priests shut the zoan down (Deny the witch on a 4+ on anything within 24).

My only piece of advice would be bring genestealers and lots of them.

[jahatch42878]

Yeah, going through the tyranid codex the first time, as a long time ultramarine player, I was surprised how little AP3 was available... yeah, boneswords are sweet, carnifexes with crushing claws are ap2 (I believe), but in small games giving all your warriors boneswords makes them 33-50% more expensive and is really only useful if you know you are fighting marines or chaos marines and can get them into melee... and all the re-rolls for scything or auto-wounds on 6's and such really doesn't matter if your opponent makes those 2+ and 3+ saves more than they should... and also, as these forums have mentioned, the random charge length and improved shooting/overwatch/heavies that can fire on the move does make a melee army a bit harder to get into combat intact... I'll see how my opponents space wolves shape up and be sure to get after the Long Fangs early if I can... =p