Dakkanids - 1750 Points

[leeroy1986]

I'm just wondering what people's general thoughts of Dakka-Tyranids are?
The few times i've used my Dakkatyrant he seems a bit of a ballache for the enemy. Bute I've not used the Fexes.

Anyway I wrote a little list.

HQ

Hive Tyrant
2xTwin-linked brainleech worms, Old adversary, Paroxysm, Leech Essence.

Hive Tyrant
2xTwin-linked brainleech worms, Old adversary, Paroxysm, Leech Essence.

Elites

3 Hive Guard

3 Hive Guard

3 Zoanthropes

Troops

10 Termagants

Tervigon
Stinger salvo.

Heavy Support

Carnifex
2xTwin-linked brainleech worms
Mycetic spore.

Carnifex
2xTwin-linked brainleech worms

Carnifex
2xTwin-linked brainleech worms


What are people's thoughts on Dakkalists? How do you find they perform?
Obviously they destroy tanks and force aload of saves, but what of everything else?

Leeroy

[Jabberwocky]

I'd consider running the fex all in 1 group, so you can screen your other MCs with it and put catalyst/endurance/TK dome on it. The points saved on the spore could bulk out your troops a little.

Won't necessarily make the list better but would work, if you find it doesn't as is.

Overall it looks solid, just watch out for armies like DE taking down the Terv turn 1 and potentially wiping both your troops with 1 volley of poison and lances.

Maybe reserve her against armies like that.

[drakiskier]

ive been running a similar list, and i have to say, marching a squad of 3 dakkafexes up the middle of the board is amazingly effective. having them seperate actually makes them less worrysome. making the two tyrants into flyrants also increases their durability, due to lack of skyfire.

[NidsAndMarines]

Be nice to put at least two c'fex together as 1 unit and attach a prime to them for LoS! trickery. Makes the prime T6 too which is funny

'Nids & Marines.

[leeroy1986]

Right fellas,

I also wrote this.

HQ

Hive Tyrant
2xTwin-linked brain-leech worms, Regeneration, Wings, Paroxysm, Leech essence.

Elites

3 Hive Guard

3 Zoanthropes

Troops

10 Termagants

10 Termgants

Tervigon
Stinger salvo, adrenal glands, toxin sacs, catalyst, onslaught, crushing claws.

Tervigon
Stinger salvo, adrenal glands, toxin sacs, catalyst, onsalught, crushing claws.

Heavy Support

3 Carnifexes
2xTwin-linked brain-leech worms.

This list seems a bit more wellrounded, having more assault defence but not as much firepower, but I will actually be able to field this list next week or so which is good.


My only concern with the Fexes is if they get assaulted then they all get locked in combat and if one gets shot dead the wounds don't pass over, also all of the shot wasteage that may occure with 36 devourer shots. I understand that one buff can effect them and them all and they would be individual killpoints. But surely it would be more effective if you have them in single units of 1?

Leeroy

[coredump]

Hmmmm....

Think about dropping one fex, adding a Prime to the fexes for wound allocation, dropping one pay power from each terv, and adding sone Yealers into the mix.

Or keep the powers and add something else.

[leeroy1986]

I really don't rate Primes dude, Ystealers I need to try at somepoint, but I think with all these changes I'm straying away from the Dakkatheme really.

[Jabberwocky]

The Prime wouldn't be there for his own ability, he'd purely be to allocate the wounds to keep the whole unit regenerating/It will not dying. I personally don't do it but it should in theory work well.

MSU vs big units is always a tough debate. It doesn't just depend on your playstyle and mission but also on what the opponent brings and what supportive elements you are using.

I'm running more MSU at the minute but in the past I had full deathstars and 20 man stealer units. I reckon just use the list you can field and see if you find yourself missing those separate fex etc.

[leeroy1986]

Just a question guys what's your opinion in the Dakkafex vs Trygon debate?

Looking at our heavies those are clearly the best 2. Although a guy at my club recently used Biovores nicely to snipe out characters in units, but Fexes and Trygons do hit harder. I've used Trygons alot last Ed and they clearly are very powerful units in combat but 12 Devourer shots it's very nasty es[ecially in this Ed, which units do you guys prefer?

I don't think you can use both without weakening your army list.

Leeeroy

[Jabberwocky]

Trygons are probably more flexible with their deployment options and having fleet. It's kind of a different role though. I wouldn't expect a single fex to spearhead the army while a Trygon potentially could.

[fleetofclaw]

Just stomped on an Eldrad + farseer/warlock bike council army in a 1500 game with the following list:

Hive tyrant, armored shell, 2x TL devourer, rolled warp speed and hemorrhage (bleh)
Tyranid prime, deathspitter, lashwhip/bonesword, regeneration

Elite
Doom
Deathleaper

Troops
15 devourer gaunts
Tervigon, crushing claws, toxin sacs, rolled iron arm and enfeeble.

Fast attack
4x raveners, rending claws

Heavy
2x carnifex, 2x TL devourers

I got the warlord trait that made auto night fight on turn one which was helpful getting my shorter range shooting get in to range intact.

Of course put the prime with the carnifex. Between the devil gaunts and the fex squad they overkilled the bike council (he did have some bad rolling) even with rerollable 3+ saves.

The raveners did exactly what i wanted them to do, super fast interceptors to tackle squads going for objectives or rooting out his ranger deck chairs etc.

The mission was big guns never tire which was so awesome. The fex prime unit was very durable, being able to allocate wounds with look out sir was awesome.

I really wouldn't run the three units of individual carnifex, too easy to pick off, the prime adds so much survivability.

That was my first game forsaking my need for speed assault heavy list and going mostly dakka. I'll let you know how future games go against other armies but I was very pleased with how well Nid dakka does as much as it pains me to go shooty.

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[leeroy1986]

Awww man I couldn't live without Hive Guard and Zoanthropes lol, such good anti-tank.
Thanks Jabber, reckon i'll give Trgons a go next week, see how they do =)