1000 point list

[NidsAndMarines]

My 10yr old son plays 40k a bit and I take him to the local GW on a Sunday morning for him to play beginner matches (or whatever scenario the manager wants them all to do), which are always nice & simple 1000pts, Purge the Alien, Dawn of War, 4'x2' board with moderate terrain pieces.
So the list we've put together for him is currently running riot - last three weeks almost tabled some 'crons in 3 turns (twice) and demolished SM in 2.5 turns after stealing initiative! Yes they weren't great lists, but you can only eat what's in front of you ... so I thought I'd share the list for you to see and comment on.

HQ:
Prime; BS, ST, TS, Regen; 110pts

Troops:
Tervigon; ST, AG, TS, Catalyst, Onslaught (usually swapped for Biomancy); 215pts
Termagants x11; devourers; 110pts
Genestealers x6 & Broodlord (usually swapped for Biomancy); TS; 165pts

Elites:
Zoanthrope x2 (powers dependant upon enemy); mycetic spore; 160pts

Heavy:
C'fex; TL Devs, b'leech x2, frag spines; 195pts
Biovore; 45pts

Basically Prime joins 'fex, 'stealers try to infiltrate midfield or beyond, everything else shoots and charges, with biovore dropping pieplates and zoans dropping in to kill any tanks or transports to get the food out

May/may not be optimal, but its working well so far and anyway my boy loves his tervigon and 'stealers, so win-win!

'Nid Nation

[Moontyranid]

seems not bad to me

but i will drop the biovore and the broodlord for a group warriors and give the prime a Lashwhipe.

[labinnac]

Really you should have him try a Doom in a pod at least once just once! Watch his friends horrified look as this one little bug eats up half a squad (maybe even 3 whole squads if they don't set them up well) and his strength and wounds go from 4 to 10!. the smack at a tank with LG S 10 blast AP 1! Yeah thats like troops and ehavy support knocked out turn 2 with one 90 point (plus 40 for pod) dude.

[Moontyranid]

I know the doom is good but i never used him because i always happend to play agianst grey knigts and there mishapp white in 12"

[NidsAndMarines]

Moontyranid. Must admit I really like warriors because they look so cool, but we've found that without the prime they get targetted and just die too quickly without doing enough nastiness - either by shooting or fighting - and the prime is definately staying with the fex, which as a nice little bonus makes the prime T6
Also my son would have apoplexy if I took his BL away unless it was replaced with more stealers, and then it can be hard to find somewhere nice to infiltrate the bigger group ... hmmm, so might think about some ymgarl instead. The biovore is nice for just 45pts, because it hides behind, well anything, and the range means it's dealing pain straight from the start.

labinnac. Nice idea. Everyone he plays (never any GK) places troops really badly so the DoM might be fun ... I'll see what my lad thinks and we might pod him in this Sunday instead of the zoans and use the spare points for a few more devourer gants. Just for giggles

'Nid Nation

[Lanesend]

So you're turning your 10 year old into a (succesful) Nid-general.

Well. I tip my hat at you two, sir! Keep up the good work.

Not much to add on the list, I'm afraid. If it works fine, don't mess with it to much.

[Harvey]

Just a heads up.

Independent Characters can't join a unit of entirely Monstrous creatures anymore

You can still join a Tyrant with Tyrant Guard thou.

[Talonis]

Aug 30, 2012 16:12:46 GMT Harvey said:

Just a heads up.

Independent Characters can't join a unit of entirely Monstrous creatures anymore

Wait what? Are you sure, can we please have a reference to this, I must have missed this (and everyone else too). If this is the case I need to rethink some strategies.

If this is true, I'm sure the Internetz would have already jumped all over any possiblity of Fex Stars...

[NidsAndMarines]

Harvey. Surely that's not right - I'm sure even GW wouldn't do something so daft. If you can reference it then I'll have to believe you and eat umble pie, but until then I'm afraid I (and I'm assuming the rest of the Hive) will have to assume you've been duped - probably been subjected to eldar trickery or the like!

'Nid Nation.

[labinnac]

My vote is for Eldar Trickery. Dem Eldar

[Lanesend]

I believe that rule that you can't join a unit, which is always composed of one model, still exists.
So you can't join a Tervigon, but you can join a Carnifex.

[NidsAndMarines]

INDEPENDANT CHARACTER Pg 39, BRB: "Independant Characters can join other units. They cannot, however, join vehicle squadrons or units that always consist of a single model ..."

So as a tervigon is always a single model, but a carnifex has a unit size of 1-3, them Lanesend is spot on.

'Nids & Marines.

[NidsAndMarines]

So the 1000 point win list, well, wins again! Today it slaughtered Ultramarines ... seems to have acquired a taste for the Blue boys, yum yum yum.

His list : Chaplain in term armour with 5 termies, all in a drop pod. Librarian. Techmarine. 2x 10 tactical squads, flamer, ML; one squad in a LR. Assault squad. (Plus a few other odd upgrades.)

Opponent won roll off and decided to go first. Set up fairly forwards on usual 4' x 2' board, taking advantage of biggish ruin centre of his half.

Nids all hide behind small wall towards rear of deployment zone except BL & 'stealers which manage to infiltrate against his ruin just where there are no windows! Zoans keep codex powers (to pop LR); tervigon rolls Iron Arm, Life Leech and Endurance; BL rolls Endurance and Haemmorhage (which he can't use and can't reroll because of the pathetic FAQ v1.1).

Son steals initiative - that set the tone for this match

Nid 1. Tervigon spawns 9 gants and clogs up, casts endurance on itself. Everthing stays hidden. Stealers shuffle, BL casts endurance. Biovore shoots down table and does minor damage.
UM 1. Drop pod lands mid table, just in nid half. Chaplain whiffs shooting. Everything moves up and LR drops some devourer gants. Tac squad shoots stealers - BL makes 1 armour save and 3 FnP . Nothing wants to engage stealers through cover, so no assaults, "I'll get you next turn" UM Commander bravely proclaims ... h'mmmm we'll see about that ...

Nid 2. Zoans drop in marine backfield, cast Warp Lance, immobilise LR. Spore lashes out kills 3 tac marines. Stealers move to prepare assault on assault marines, cast endurance. Terv casts endurance. Everything moves towards isolated termies. Biovore shoots downfield but whiffs. Stealers charge, lose nothing to overwatch and leave just two assault marines. Dev gaunts, prime & fex and tervigon all attack termies leaving just chaplain alive for loss of one wound on tervigon!
UM 2. Techmarine moves and attempts to mend LR but fails. LR shoots zoans, but poor rolling and 3++ sorts that. Librarian and tacs shoot pod, but it survives. Librarian & tacs assault pod, only just killing it. Stealers munch assault marines and move to trap libbie/tacs. Chaplain disappears under massive attacks and rest of army except dev gants consolidates towards LR. Devilgants move towards libbie/tacs.

Nid 3. Zoans Warp Lance LR - BOOM. Blast kills 3 tacs inside. Dev gants shoot other tacs, kill some. Stealers cast Endurance, move to tacs and libbie. Tervigon casts endurance, shooting kills techmarine. Fex shooting whiffs. Dev gants declare charge against tacs/libbie, take overwatch losing nothing but fail 11" charge. Stealers charge and get into libbie & tacs wiping them all out. Fex & prime charge remaining tacs, lose nothing from overwatch but miss short charge by 1". Marines concede and the grear devourer has done its' job.

At finish UM left with only 7 tac marines and a drop pod. Tyranid total hive losses : 1 genestealer and 7 devilgants!

Not a great UM list, played not very well by fairly inexperienced player - but he'll learn and anyway you can only (b)eat what's in front of you!

My lad was really pleased but gutted the tervigon constipated turn one and that there were any UM left at all - sadistic little sod! After the match it turns out the marine 1000pt list was over 1200pts (thought there seemed a lot on the UM side of the board), so the win was even sweeter.

Even the manager of the GW store was impressed but we might now need to play some better players (or at least different armies) and be interesting to see if a bigger board will allow an enemy to stay away and shoot up the nids long enough to thin them out sufficiently.

'Nids & Marines.

[Sanguineus]

Why the 4' x 2' tables. Seems very small for a 500 point game let a lone a 1000 point game.

[Moontyranid]

how big in inch`s is that?