1500 Mawlocs - oh my

[bebe]

Well 6ed has opened up some new opportunities for Nids. I think it may be time to revisit the old Mawloc lists. I'm not going to debate Mawlocs vs flyers. Until FAQed, it works by RAW. So we do have anti-flyer defense in the list.


-Deathleaper 6ed-

HQ: 235
1 Tervigon (Stinger Salvo; Crushing Claws; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; 3* Biomancy)

Elite: 205
1 Deathleaper
1 Venomthrope

Troop: 520
1 Tervigon (Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; 3* Biomancy)
1 Tervigon (Stinger Salvo; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; 3* Biomancy)
10 Termagant Brood
10 Termagant Brood

Heavy Support: 540
1 Trygon
1 Mawloc
1 Mawloc

-1500-

My thinking is simple. I want units that do damage and are durable. In fact the most questionable unit might be the Trygon - not the Leaper. I have the ability to contest or take objectives ... you can spawn 30-50 gants a game. Biomancy has made Tervigons quite scary as you will get some useful powers. Thankfully it is not hard to get at least 5+ cover saves for MCs now too. Itis not a complicated list at all. Mawlocs have their drawbacks i know - poor cc performers albeit durable, can be downred by krak /melta grenades, may only see action for three game turns. But in this list they work well.

There is a noticeable lack of HG. AT 1750-1850, you should add three and an Venomthrope - if you do not want Ymgarls (which might in fact be better). Now I have not tested this in 6ed. There are those that might recall that I played this list extensively in 5ed - with less tervigons and stealers. But I'm not a stealer fan in 6ed. We had a thread on Lictors and Deathleapers that explored this extensively in 6ed with quite a few battle reports.

So the above is strictly hypothetical and theory crafting for the moment. I have no data to support it other than past experiences and some math hammer that says it should work well. On paper, lol.

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[glassiya]

Aug 28, 2012 3:48:02 GMT bebe said:

Mawlocs have their drawbacks i know - ...may only see action for three game turns.

What stops you from putting them on table 1st turn, and then Burrow, to make sure they'll appear on 2nd without any korean random?

[bebe]

Nothing. I intend to do that - but game lengths are random and you will want to pop in and out if possible. That is their strength. I know my opponent will want them tied up. I don't. So it is tough to know how many actual turns they will be on the table.

and for the record my plan for expansion is ...

8 Ymgarl Stealers 184
1 Venomthrope 65

-1750-

25 Hormagants (Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs) 250

-2000-

[rpricew]

It seems that the Trygon is a fire magnet in this list. His purpose is to draw fire while other models move into position. However with 6 wounds he is still not very durable.

Consider maybe dropping the HQ Tervigon for a walking Armored Tyrant with HC. This gives you the bonus to bring in Deathleaper on a 2+ and the Tyrant still gives you a dedicated CC Synapse unit.

Drop the Trygon and use the points for 7-8 Ymgarls.

Ymgarls give you the ability to reach out and touch your opponent turn 2 probably, along with the arriving Mawlocs and Deathleaper.

[bebe]

Dropping the Trygon at 1500 for Ymgarls is a possibility I shall seriously consider. Not to enthused about the walking tyrant though. I much prefer the extra Tervigon. I get the usefulness of HC but really DS is much more reliable now anyway. I'm okay marching up table with three tervigons - possibly with iron arm to boot and certainly with cover now in 6ed and with the venomthrope. They are a pita to remove in one turn. I will take some of your suggestions though ...

HQ: 225
1 Tervigon (Stinger Salvo; Crushing Claws; Toxin Sacs; 3* Biomancy)

Elite: 431
1 Deathleaper
2 Venomthrope
7 Ymagrls

Troop: 500
1 Tervigon (Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; 3* Biomancy)
1 Tervigon (Stinger Salvo; Toxin Sacs; 3* Biomancy)
10 Termagant Brood
10 Termagant Brood

Heavy Support: 340
1 Mawloc
1 Mawloc

I'll add a trygon and then hormagants going up to 2000




edited for grammar