Why are Harpies Good?

[bebe]

I agree with wisdomeyes - I'm underwhelemed by Hive Tyrants and Carnifexes (although I play a fexstar list for fun). I prefer taking an extra Tervigon with three powers. The biggest problem with Nids is short range dakka. We are all aware of that. Spamming devourers w/ HTs and Carnifex is an option for dakka but I have done better without HTs and FMCs overall. The Harpy is just another unit that is over costed in our codex. It has its uses no doubt. But I'm not convinced that it adds anything I cannot get elsewhere. It's not likely to take down many fliers.

[coredump]

Nothing we have is likely to take down many flyers, and needs a bit of luck to take down any.

[Jabberwocky]

How exactly is short range dakka our main problem? All we really have is short range dakka! You can count on one hand our weapons beyond 24" range and only half of those are really viable in an all comers list.

[gigasnail]

too bad the harpy can't take two TL BL devourers.

[bebe]

How exactly is short range dakka our main problem? All we really have is short range dakka!

That is the problem, lol. What did you think I meant?

[Jabberwocky]

You said short range dakka was our problem, then said we had a way to do it but it was lacklustre.

To me that says we can't do short range dakka :-P

[Helonion]

Bridging off of TL devourers and dakka. Someone suggested a squadron of carnifex with TLD, regen, being lead by a Tyranid Prime, using look out sir and taking 11 wounds just to kill the first model because of divvying out the wounds, but makes it longer due to regen. Expensive yes but apperently he has had experiance using it and loves it.

[Jabberwocky]

It should work pretty well, just leaves you quite short on scoring units since it's 700+ points; more than a full Swarmlord deathstar even! Plus if something like draigowing catches it, or 2++/2++ dark Eldar seer council, it will either die or be stuck all game.

[Helonion]

Sept 4, 2012 8:57:24 GMT Jabberwocky said:

It should work pretty well, just leaves you quite short on scoring units since it's 700+ points; more than a full Swarmlord deathstar even! Plus if something like draigowing catches it, or 2++/2++ dark Eldar seer council, it will either die or be stuck all game.

Wow, two whole instances out of hundreds. Look the guy explained it in 20 seconds as a general fun use. I like the idea, don't kill the mood. >_>

[Jabberwocky]

Those are specific examples. Any army designed to handle deathstars will be trouble, whether they outmatch the deathstar or just avoid/tarpit it.

Besides, I already said it would work otherwise :-p