Deep-striking Flyrants?

[brianb9999]

I was considering alternative deployment options for my Flyrants in my lists that use 2, and I realized I couldn't find a spot in the codex/rulebook that explicitly stated that winged TMC's/FMC's could arrive via deep strike. The codex says creatures with wings "move in the same way as jump infantry", not that they *are* jump infantry, which would grant them deep strike. Also, the rules for FMC's in the rulebook similarly state that gliding FMC's "move, run, and charge exactly like a jump monstrous creature", but again no mention of deep strike in the deployment rules. For some reason, I always thought they could. Am I wrong? Or could someone point me in the right direction in the codex/rulebook?

[rpricew]

it's in the FAQ for Tyranids. I wouldn't recommend deepstriking you Tyrant unless you absolutely need to! I always reserve mine and then Swoop him on turn 2 usually with Hive Commander. This way you can Vector Strike and shoot another target.

[brianb9999]

Silly me, it was right at the end and I didn't see it. But thanks anyway! I would prefer to start them on the board...I just dislike that thy cannot start in swooping mode in case I don't get the first turn (which is often).

[wisdomseyes1]

I'm conserned that will be re FAQ'd in September.

It's an old FAQ referring to when deep strike was actually under the movement section of jump infantry. It no longer does, so the FAQ might be removed.

[Anax]

Also, if you arrive via DS, you're still not swooping until the next movement phase. Or are you?

[killme304]

Its in the rules that a FMC arriving from reserve may elect to enter as swooping or as gliding. DS is entering from reserve, so there you have it.

[coredump]

There is a discussion about that, for both flyers and FMCs; since the rule says you must move 12/18", it is uncertain if arriving via deepstrike covers that requirement.

[swarmy]

Aug 28, 2012 16:19:29 GMT coredump said:

There is a discussion about that, for both flyers and FMCs; since the rule says you must move 12/18", it is uncertain if arriving via deepstrike covers that requirement.

Descent pattern from cruising altitude covers that movement cmon now...

[infornography]

I had read it as if you are swooping you come in from your board edge, if you are Deep Striking you have to be gliding.

Anyway I find I'd rather spend as little time swooping as possible. The Flyrant was a powerhouse in 5th with just the same rules as gliding, he still is in 6th. If I absolutely HAVE to cross a large section of board in a turn I'll swoop, but for normal operation, gliding for the win. I don't like letting my opponent get easy wounds on my flyrant with guardsmen.

[l0rdf1end]

Exactly right. Swooping should be used to get somewhere. It's not something that should be used permantly in my eyes.
As Infornogrpahy stated, Additional Grounding tests leads to the possibliy of unsaved wounds.
That doesn't mean you should glide him out in the open either.

Get him to where he needs to be and follow up with gliding, shoot and use Smash attacks agaisnt Nob bikers or whatever.

In regards to deepstriking, I would never consider using Deepstirking unless the board had no where to hide my Flyrant turn 1 if going second.

[Psychichobo]

The only trouble with grounding tests is that cover is almost entirely irrelevant when it comes to avoiding a bored small arms barrage. A flyrant is still relatively chunky, and even though I've always found it easy to give him a cover save, keeping them out of sight entirely isn't really that doable.

[WestRider]

The FAQ is actually now unnecessary for the original question. The Jump Units section on Pg.46 says right at the start that Units that "move like" Jump Units follow all the Rules for them.