My first army list

[sirstokie]

First of all I want to say hi and thank you to the hive. As someone totally new to wargaming I was kinda lost in a world of Armour saves, USR and terrifying acronyms such as GEQ MEQ and TEQ Okay now down to the serious stuff... eating. I picked tyranids because they were cool, I didn't know (and still don't) know enough about the game mechanics to pick and army on it's rules and units so I chose on badassery. But I do want to play the game and as such drafted up my 'dream' army, what I eventually hope to build towards.

Tyrant with Armored shell, Regeneration and adrenal glands 240 points
6 warriors w/Deathspitters and Rending Claws -240
6 warriors w/Deathspitters and Rending Claws -240
Tervigon w/ Catalyst- 175
15 Termagants - 60
Tervigon w/ Catalyst- 175
15 Termagants - 60
25 termagants -100
Trygon w/ Toxin glands- 210

OK so it's not an optimal dream-crushing net list but it does look fun both to paint and play. Please tell me anything obvious I have overlooked any tips you might think are useful and We will take it from there.

[Anggul]

I think it would be better to drop the Warrior's Deathspitters back down to Devourers or Scything Talons and upgrade the Rending Claws to Boneswords.

I don't think Adrenal Glands really worth it on Hive Tyrants any more as the Initiative bonus is gone, meaning all they give you is +1 strength on the charge. If you're attacking anything which you need more than 6 strength against you're probably better off making a Smash attack instead.

Oh and Termagants are more points than that, so you're currently on 1555pts.

[Jabberwocky]

I agree about the adrenal glands and similar can be said about toxin sacs on the Trygon.

A lot of people will suggest you include Hive Guard for their S8 shooting or at least some Zoans who can keep their S10 shots or swap to some supportive psychic powers as the need arises.

Maybe also consider running 1 big brood of warriors with a Prime in it, especially if using a lot of supportive powers.

[sirstokie]

Well... I had 10 points left over so I stuck them on adrenal glands for the tyrant. I am working on another list right now but I think its is going to be quite different

[sirstokie]

So I have tried again and have altered the list once again any criticism is welcome and appreciated. I have got my rather rambling thought process in there to try and show what I think the lists do well.


List One
Tyrant with Armoured shell (210)
2x Zoanthrope (120)
3x Hive Guard (150)
6x Warriors w/ Rending Claws and devourers (210)
6x Warriors w/ Rending Claws and devourers (210)
15x termagaunt (75)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
15x termagaunt (75)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
20x termagaunt (100)
1500 points
Pros
+50 scoring models two of which are MC WOOP
+ Zoans and HG make for mean Anti-tank
+Catalyst is awsomesauce!
+MC and warriors may provide target priority headaches?
Cons
- No boneswords for warriors
- Tyrant is the only in-your-face-MC so may (will) get focused down
- No Prime for alpha warrior
- Possible overkill on both HG and Zoans
Things I could change

Cut down on HG and Zoans to pay for Boneswords on warriors and/or a Warrior Prime w/LW and Bonesword? Total 155 points! 270-155=115 so have to drop 1 zoan 1HG or 2 HG Just boneswords then 270-60=210 drop a HG+10 point of other stuff or drop a zoan?


List Two
Tyrant with Armoured shell (210)
1x Zoanthrope (120)
3x Hive Guard (150)
6x Warriors w/ Boneswords and devourers (240)
6x Warriors w/ BoneSwords and devourers (240)
15x termagaunt (75)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
15x termagaunt (75)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
20x termagaunt (100)
1500
Pros
+50 scoring models two of which are MC still WOOP
+ Zoan and HG are still hefty anti-tank
+Catalyst is still awsomesauce!
+MC and warriors may provide target priority headaches? Especially with boneswords you don’t want either getting near!
Cons
- Tyrant is the only in-your-face-MC so may (will) get focused down
- No Prime for alpha warrior
- Less anti-tank though that shouldn’t be a problem
-Warriors are now very fragile for their price

[Jabberwocky]

Do you really need 2 units of warriors? You have 7(!) troops meaning 1 Terv has to be HQ.

Combine them into a unit of 8/9, which will pay for all LW/BS and a regen Prime. Slap endurance/TK dome on the unit and it is very survivable and deadly, plus you have an alternative warlord and still have 6 troops!

[labinnac]

Another thing I would add is that for me at least my favorite personal unit is the DoM. Since your getting zoans you can make one a DoM. Just pod drop him in and have him wreck face no one with half a brain will let him live a turn or 2 thus giving you more time to get your other thing (namely your tyrant) into great striking distance. I have yet to see the DoM not pay for himself and over his point cost he is just such an infantry assassin.

[sirstokie]

Well I think this one is at least legal. Thanks for all the advice guys!

Tyrant with Armoured shell (210)
Prime w/ Regen, lashwhip and bonesword (105)
Doom of malan'tai w/ spore (130)
3x Hive Guard (150)
8x Warriors w/ lashwhip and Bonesword (360)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
15x termagaunt (75)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
15x termagaunt (75)
1455 points

I am not sure what to do with the other 45 points. Any suggestions?

[Jabberwocky]

Deathspitters on the warriors. Then you're cooking with gas.

Alternatively, more powers on the Tervs. I'd take the guns though.

[sirstokie]

Tyrant with Armoured shell (210)
Prime w/ deathspitter, Regen, lashwhip and bonesword (110)
Doom of malan'tai w/ spore (130)
3x Hive Guard (150)
8x Warriors w/ Deathspitters, lashwhip and Bonesword (400)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
15x termagaunt (75)
Tevigon w/ Catalyst (175)
15x termagaunt (75)
1500 points

Thanks so much guys this look really solid to me now! As long as I haven't messed it up some how!

[labinnac]

Looks good, a real solid shooty list.

[sirstokie]

So I've got a list now how do I build up to it? At the moment I'm painting up some of the snap fit termagants to find a paint scheme but once I have that (the paint scheme) what out the above list would you recommend I pick up first painting wise? Oh and thanks again!

[Jabberwocky]

Do as many of the little guys as you can stomach then do the MCs for a break. I don't mind painting big ones but I hate little guys. If I left gants til last they'd never be done!


One little thing you could alter, is dropping a few gants for more psychic powers on the Tervs, if you find yourself wanting more. This will also leave you more models for spawning. See how you get on first though as is.

[sirstokie]

Well I am loving doing the little guys though I have no problems spending hours on even a small model maybe that will change