Bounding leap and Fleet...

[rhawin]

Ive just read the new rules and come to the much anticipated Fleet rule... How does it work in conjunction with Bounding leap?

Can i re roll that roll, and if not, why?

O and another question, does an enemy reduce its Initiative to 1 when charging a unit effected by Spore Cloud? (seems unlikely but since the rules for SPC have changed i had to check

By the way hi I'm new here!

[swarm492]

I cant comment on the first question because I don't have my dex atm but I know the spore cloud does not reduce inti values, gw states that because the cloud is not terrain it does not reduce initiative in our faq.

[rhawin]

Haha the fun thing is i just read that FAQ . well well... but thx

Venomthropes would be really evil if they did reduce I

[Davor]

They use to reduce the I, i wonder why GW took it away. I guess every FAQ for Tyranids have to nerf them in some way.

Really nervous about the next FAQ. I am sure Weapon Emplacements as well as Emplaced Weapons, Tyranids will not be able to use.

[seahawk]

It was nice when they did.

[killme304]

For bounding leap, you may reroll any number of the run dies. If you have a 4 and two 1s, reroll the 1s and hope they turn into something better, a 4 is fairly decent.

[forteh]

The way I see it, you get three d6 and choose the highest for your run moves, you can re-roll any if you so desire so you're almost guaranteed to run 6", just a shame that fleet doesn't let you run and assault now

[rhawin]

My First game with the new rules is next saturday, so im just now reading the rules, and will make a new list after that

Bounding leep with Fleet is a nice Combo but not being able to Fleet and charge is a stupid change they made. But reroll on the charge makes up for it to some degree.

I have over 50 hormies, that i used to field, feels like i will decrease that number now

Does someone have any great advice on how to get maximum value out of Hormies in the new edition?

Another thing i was wondering about is HoW, what units have that rule? Has any new codex arrived since the release of 6th ED?

[killme304]

HoW is on Bikes/Jetbikes, MCs, Chariots (they get a special version), and JI that use the jump pack in the assault phase instead of the movement phase.

[rhawin]

So all MCs get HoW... Nice (have the rules on bad PDF... takes time ) Getting the rulebook next week.

How about Hive commander? Can i Outflank with Warriors and prime?

Reading the rules and trying to make a list at the same time... haha the list will surely be revised when i get to the end

The questions are flowing from my brain now , Does the HTs Hive Commander +1 to the reserve roll apply if he is not on the table (is he gonna be a flyrant or a walking one).

[coredump]

Yes outflank Warrior/Prime outflank.

Yes +1 reserve roll while off table (unless dead)

Yes, boundng leap/fleet. Roll 3 dice, reroll any of those. (but you must choose before rolling. IOW, you cant reroll 1, and then decide reroll another one. You decide if you want to reroll 1 or 2 or 3. This is more important when Charging.)

I would only keep a 5 from the first roll; it is very unlikely to get all <4 when rolling 3 dice.

[Harvey]

I've found that Hormagaunts are now best used as support, they are quick and with Toxin Sacs can really shred an unwary opponent.

I Run 2 broods of 10 both with Toxin.

One brood follows behind the Tervigon and is used to counter assault thing that get near it while the Termagants act as the cannon fodder.

The other follows behind my Tyrant for cases where he get in combat with a horde unit, due to the changed in fearless MC plus your smaller guys are amazing.

Giving the feel no pain can be really good as well and finally because rage no longer forces you to move, i can have them sit back on an objective that i know isn't going to be under pressure which is common a lot due to just how Tyranids roll and the new missions having like 6 objectives.

You really have to have something to draw there attention away from or shield them, i have a unit of throwaway Gargoyles and not to mention the mass of Termagants but also the threat of a MC protects them as well.

[rhawin]

I have 50+ Hormies used everyone i 5th ed mayby i need to rethink that number... and buy some new stuff to replace them

I really like the models and like the horde look!

My thinking is, having walking babysitter Tyrant and a unit of 3 Zoans.

each babysitting one of my 20-25 model units... then outflank with 20-25 Devilgants, what i do with my 5 Warriors + Prime depends on mission. 1-2 Venomthropes will hang back with one or two units giving cover, and i will deepstrike my 15 Gargs. In many cases i will have everything in reserve. And since people seem to think that Stealers are almost useless for the points, my stealers will be upgraded to ystealers.

Should i reduce my number of Hormies? (I will buy 2-3 Hiveguard in the coming weeks). I have thought about using a Tervigon but i just dont like the model or termies in general. Mayby the Swarm Lord?

[Threeshades]

Aug 16, 2012 15:37:40 GMT killme304 said:

For bounding leap, you may reroll any number of the run dies. If you have a 4 and two 1s, reroll the 1s and hope they turn into something better, a 4 is fairly decent.

or if you only get ones and twos, reroll the whole thing, because the odds are a lot better for the new roll to be better than to be even worse.

[coredump]

That is true for 3's and 4's also.

Only thing I would keep is a 5