trannofex in 6th

[hiveman]

what are peoples thoughts on the tfex now in 6th.
the 2+ sv has gotta be worth it on its on with acid spay its gonna hurt or attract a hell alot of fire, while the rest of the others move in for the kill.

[jifel]

Its tough as heck but sadly expensive. It's no longer as effective as a tank hunter as its harder to one shot vehicles, and all its Rupture cannon can do really is finish off a vehicle with one Hull Point left. With an Acid Spray is worth considering, use it to hit soft targets in CC while drawing fire, and flaming anything.

[yoritomo]

I think the jury is still out on the tyrannofex.


There is no doubt that it is a good unit, he always has been. And the changes to the armor save makes his 2+ save even better. The real question is whether or not he's worth his points. Back in 5th ed the real reason you took a tyrannofex was for his anti-tank ability. But with the new vehicle rules we are no longer chained to our anit-vehicle units.

As you pointed out, the better armor save encourages him to get up close and personal, which makes his acid spray option much better. However, I question if we need that kind of ability. If there's one thing that tyranids are never hurting for it's more anti-infantry options. Having a template weapons is nice, but I've already got a tyrant, warriors, stealers, hormagaunts, and raveners as options for killing those infantry. And all those options cost less that a tyrannofex (depending on how you outfit your tyrant).

There's nothing wrong with running a tyrannofex, I just think we need to see how the meta game settles before we start adding him as an auto include in our lists.

[hiveman]

yea its certain useful especially the the 12"plus template range on the acid spray .

[Deleted]

I think Tfex's biggest use will be as a fire magnet. We have a lot of options that will do a lot more damage for the points, and stick around longer. People however are scared or 2+ t6 w6 MCs and will often focus fire them. He won't very killy unless you fight GEQ foot blobs though, MEQ will laugh him off. Fleshborer Hive still sucks for the points and, as stated by others, Rupture Cannon went from not very good to just straight out bad so Acid Spray is his only option and its still way overcosted. s6 ap4 flamer for 250 points is a joke considering IG can have 2 Bane Wolfs for the same price dishing out 2 templates with 2+ poison and AP3. If Acid Spray had ap3 I'd consider it.

[bloodborne]

after having a drawn out discussion, and seeing how my nids have done vs. the MEQ average.... I am inclined to think that a Tfex would be good against anything MEQ or lower... Anything Chaos of GEQ armor companies I could still see laying the hurt down on Tfexs though...

There is no Armor companies in my LGS though, and they are the only thing I legitimately fear when playing nids...

[infornography]

My assessment of the Tfex after fielding them for a bit was that they just aren't worth their points. They probably won't die but they are REAL easy to bog down and tarpit. They don't get enough attacks to free themselves from an unwanted assault. They probably won't die to it, but they won't be going anywhere very fast either.

After playing with it for a while I came to the conclusion that a Trygon Prime was more worth the points. They can fend off many more infantry and don't mind getting stuck in melee. Plus they have a decent ranged attack and act as a SitW beacon. Now in 6th ed the prime is less good in comparison due to the chance of getting rage, but it is still a solid option.

[Mindshred]

I've been running a Rupture Cannon T-Fex in my 1500 and 1850 lists lately, and he's been working out pretty well. I'm not sure if he's really cost-efficient, but it's nice have a long range anti-tank gun that can start threatening things right away. He doesn't usually get to unload his other two weapons, but he's also survived to the end of the game, and my opponents have called him really annoying, so... *shrug*

[Deleted]

Main problem with the Rupture Cannon is the fact that anything worse than ap2 got nerfed in 6e with their chance to wreck cut in half. Didn't hurt most AT in the game as it's normally ap1/2 but it sure hit the Rupture Cannon pretty bad. Rupture Cannon has a 1/36 chance per shot for a wrecking pen on av14 assuming a hit where-as before it was 1/18, and with 2 shots at bs3 for 265 points it's not exactly the go-to gun for glancing stuff to death. Then, if you're not facing av14 Hive Guard still do better.

[eldar88]

My view of Tfex now is that, it's massively overpriced for in essence a S10 autocannon, that dosen't know when to roll over and die. Sure it's a fire magnet, but so is the doom, and we all wat effect that can have especially poded. Anyway for the price a Trygon is far better (other than the sv) it might not last as long, but can do overrall far greater damage (especially with Prime, Regen And TS) for a similar price.

[killme304]

The difference is you can drop a doom in place and say "deal with me or die", for a fraction of the points. The tyranno gets tarpitted and its not doing anything for the rest of the game. I will say that with Acid Spray it can bring down a ton of mid-short range pain, but so does most of our other units.

[swarm492]

With the changes to the dam chart the tyrano is prolly going to work the best for the points with just being her base un-upgraded self in my opinon. However you make a good point that it brings more of the same to our army, mid and close range anti infantry.

[fragile]

Make the rupture cannon AV2 or AV1 and we can talk about the Tfex again.. otherwise I think it will collect dust on the shelves.

[ravenousnid87]

In the games that I have played with the Tyrannofex, he has been great. I took the basic fex, and watched him take down as much units as I wanted him to, and he was able to do that with the proper support. I also had a trygon prime in the mix, and he dies a lot faster than the fex. Also, half of the time the prime does not even get a chance to kill anything. Maybe players take the prime more seriously than the fex? I don't know really, but I enjoy using the fex.

[infornography]

They must be seriously focusing down your trygon. What else are you hitting them with? A Trygon takes a lot of firepower to remove from the field, if you are rocking them with several simultaneous assaults then all your other attackers should be hitting at full strength, if you drop a trygon unsupported into enemy territory without providing other threatening targets that they can't easily ignore then it is GOING to get powered down.

I have ymgarls, a flyrant, and a Trygon all (ideally) popping out at my opponent on the same round. My Trygon often lasts the whole game.