Fexstar 1750

[bebe]

- Fexstar -

1 Hive Tyrant (2 TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms; 2* Biomancy) 200
1 Tyranid Prime (Dual Boneswords; Regen) - 100
3x 2 Hive Guard 300
2x Tervigons (Adrenals; Crushing Claws; Stinger Salvo; 3* Biomancy) 460
2x 10 Termagants 100
4 Warriors (Rending Claws, Deathspitters) - 160
2 Carnifex ((2x TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms; Bioplasma; Frag Spines) 430

- 1750 -

From the start of 6ed I've been playing three armies - GK/Eldar/Nids. Nids are thr red headed stepchild of my armies. They don't have the punch of either of my other lists. That said, I've done quite well focusing on a heavy MC shooty list. Devourers are making my day. They take down fliers, tanks and infantry. I've got plenty of units I can sacrifice to get my mission objectives. It's a bit strange but I've gone heavy on MCs even in my Gk/Eldar lists (my Gk list fields 6 MCs).

The subtleties of 6ed have made Fexstars a rather potent unit. Hive Guard are still the best elite choice, IMHO, as they can lay a lot of dakka down in cover. My strangest choice ids the unit of Warriors. I have them so that all the S8+ get directed their way first. At 2000 points i go dual FoC which allows me to add another Tyrant to the list and beef up my Warriors a bit. Six MCs seems just about right at 2000.

[Lanesend]

I've been working with a shooty Tyrant without Guards too, but I find the 2+ armor pretty important for missiles and small arms fire. How does it work without?
I wonder every time he swallows a lascannon shot, if I just wasted 40 points...

And is the bioplasma working out? I find it rather expensive on two fexes.

[Jabberwocky]

I'd drop the plasma, frag spines and maybe the warriors rending claws for a shell and another warrior/barbed strangler probably.

[Princelarming]

I like the idea of distracting enemy S8+ fire with the Warriors, but i don't believe it's realistic unless they make a credible threat - a pod would work - making sure that they were there and "in your face" from turn 2. A Upgraded gun on one of them would be nice, for Wound Allocation purposes...

I dont like the Frag Spines and Bio-Plasma either. Why do you need Better Initiative, when you never get to strike faster than a marine anyway?

I would either go for a Tyrant Guard or Armoured Shell for the Tyrant - With one Guard, the unit still gains benefits from the Tyrants Boosted toughness from Iron Arm, for instance...

[bebe]

A Carnifex armed with frag spines can now throw a STR 3 AP- blast. Granted it's not much but it only costs a few points. It also allows me to strike before powerfists. Cheap enough.

I'm not sold on bioplasma. They are good but they are expensive. I like them when they get used but the range is short for sure.

I've been considering dropping the warriors and just using Ravenors as the beast rules are quite good now. At 2000 points i could rock out with this ...

As for the Tyrant - well he is not the prime target in this list - the Tervs are and then the Fexes are. If I dropped the prime and reconfigured I would add in the shells.

2x 1 Hive Tyrant (2 TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms; Armoured Shell; 2* Biomancy) 480
2x 2 Hive Guard 200
2x Tervigons (Adrenals; Crushing Claws; Stinger Salvo; 3* Biomancy) 460
2x 11 Termagants 110
4 Ravenors (Rending Claws, Deathspitters) 180
3x 1 Carnifex ((2 TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms) 570

- 2000 -

I lose my Fexstar but I gain some devourers which are the key component of the list. Ten TL Devourers is nothing to sneeze out. I'm also rocking seven MCs - enough to cause a lot of lists headaches. I've stripped out most upgrades here - I added armoured shell as per suggestions. The original design stripped off the shells and claws for extra HG. But having played with the claws I really like them. I'll test the armoured shell out. It will make the Tyrant a beast in cc as well.


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[squash]

Why the hell the bioplasma?

[wisdomseyes1]

I had a fun list I used lat week. 1750 DOUBLE FEXSTAR

Tyranid prime
Deathspitter
LW/bs
Regen

Tyranid prime
Deathspitter
LW/bs
Regen

3 devilfexen
3 devilfexen

11 termagant
11 termagant

2 zoantrhopes
2 zoantrhopes


No tournament winning list, but pissed my friends off. Look out sit and IWND cheese with 36 shots (plus the prime) each? An they really seldom die. It was funny. Especially when my friend customized a list full of mech just for me because I was playing nidz

[bebe]

Bio-plasma was put on because it's AP2. Carnifexen may run into terminators or other 2+ save models, especially now in 6ed. Seems everyone looks to include some beatsticks. It is expensive though and that's why I'm okay with dropping it.

[wisdomseyes1]

Aug 14, 2012 21:53:33 GMT bebe said:

Bio-plasma was put on because it's AP2. Carnifexen may run into terminators or other 2+ save models, especially now in 6ed. Seems everyone looks to include some beatsticks. It is expensive though and that's why I'm okay with dropping it.

So you wanted a small blast with no range that turned the terminators armor from 2 to what is likely 3, maybe 5 if they are shooting terminators?

Your better just shooting the second set of devours at it. Opponents aren't going to clump up, you going to get 1 hit, 2 with luck. 6 shots that hit 4 times and would 4 times is better... Plus if they are shooting terminators you won't be getting that close for bio plasma, and if you can it's not unrealistic to say that charging them would e good enough.

[bebe]

Yes, Ive come to agree. But bio=plasma is just so cool. It's okay i've revised my list to drop bio=plasma. I'm playing this on the weekensd ...

1 Hive Tyrant (2 TL Devourer w/ Brainleech Worms; Armoured Shell; 2* Biomancy) 240
1 Tyrant Guard 60
! Tyranid Prime (Dual Boneswords, Deathspitter, Regeneration) 105
2x 2 Hive Guard 200
2x Tervigons (Adrenals; Stinger Salvo; Regeneration; 3* Biomancy) 460
2x 14 Termagants 140
4 Ravenors (Rending Claws, Deathspitters) 180
3 Carnifex ((2 TL Devourer w/ Brainleech Worms, Adrenals, Frag) 615

- 2000 -

I fully expect to do well with two very tough units pumping out devourer shots. Eight TL devourers had better do some damage backed up by all those Deathspitters and even Stinger Salvos hurt some. You get four shots with precision otr against fliers anyway. I'm hoping to roll well on the psychic tables, of course. I have cheap blocking troops plus, so I should be okay.

[Deleted]

I would reconsider the AG and Frag on the Fexen, since they do far more damage shooting you really shouldn't be charging them into melee if at all possible and neither do anything if they are charged. If the Prime is joining the Fexen I'd give him LW/BS to give him a chance at striking down FW/PWs before they can do damage or at least let the Fexen hit at the same time as any nasty CC unit that happens to charge them. Those changes would give you another 40 points to toy with as well.

[bebe]

I'll see how this list plays out. I'm pretty sure of a few things in 6ed though.

Nids can really field tough troop choices to control mid-table (Tervigons).
Nids can handle mech now a lot easier. Hull points have helped us. Hitting on 3+ helps. Smash helps.
Flyers are not that bad for us. We have HG and devourer spam when needed.
Biomancy is a very good addition to Nid lists.
Fexstars are back - not that they ever really disappeared.
I'm playing a style now that I played back in 4ed. Nidzilla. Shoot, shoot and shoot some more. I feel that is what 6ed is leading us to.

There is still some testing to do.

- I'm not sure if I want to eventually include a Deathleaper at 2000. His -d3 to psykers in this environment can be quite useful. Popping up to contest objectives is handy. He can take down transports or tie up missile toting dev squads. He has precision shot. I just find him a little too pricey. But if I find psykers are hurting me ( rune priests, Mephiston, characters, warlords w/ nasty psychic powers, etc.,) he might be an inclusion. For now I'm relying on SitW.
- I dropped my Ravenors for now. But I have to say that I like the beast rules. They can be nasty with deathspitters and rending. Again the problem is cost for damage output and utility. Do I need them more than an extra dakkafex? They could be reinstated.
- I gave up on Gargoyles and hormagants in 6ed. They have their uses but I rely heavily on units that can survive and/or shoot.
- I no longer use genestealers. We don't need to go into how badly they have been nerfed despite the new psychic Broodlord.