Warriors? Worth it??

[spud81]

Hi all,

I've been reading a few posts and i was wondering you could help out. I'm planning my first game of 6th at the weekend and i want to use warriors (because i have lots of models and i like em). I was planning on running something like:

Prime

Zoanathrope

Warrior brood x 4
Termgant x 20
Hormgaunt x 20

Rough idea was to use prime/warriors & hormgaunts together and zoanathrope and termgants together. Its only about 500 points (which is the limit). But as its a small game i was hoping that there would be too many nids on the board (and not too many strength 8+ weapons). Also i wasnt sure what powers to use for the zoanathrope? If i keep the normal ones i've got some anti tank and space marine killers blast powers but i know the new powers are pretty cool?

Cheers all

[turndamage]

Neat! I do enjoy a small skirmish battle from time to time

Have you thought about what the warriors will have in the way of weapons? With the prime in your group of warriors, they will benefit from an increased BS and can dish out some better shooting. Deathspitters are the higher S weapon of choice (with a mild AP value of 5), but many will argue that unless you're hoping to glance some very (very) light armor, you may save your points and give them the devourers (for 1 less S and no ap, but with the -1 ld test on your opponent). Also, if they get into close combat, you could chose to give them just the scything talons, or spend points on bonesword/lashwhip or dual boneswords. Also, you can deck out your prime differently too so if all your warriors are heavy shooty, he can just take some good melee weapons and challenge the enemy HQ and hopefully kill him outright.

I would be careful with that lone zoanthrope. They tend to go down very fast, even without high S weaopns. if you pepper a zoanthrope with enough small strength shots, it will go down pretty easily. And for it's psychic powers, it depends on what your facing (as always). Frankly, the basic powers are quite good (kill space marines like you mentioned, and pop nearly any vehicle with ease). Psychic scream is a good one to give him though too, but that's if you can get the thrope close: maybe a mycetic spore to get him in to use it.

Again, it really depends on what army you face, but i'd be happy with this list. Even if there were s8 weapons on your warriors, if you place your prime at the front, he can absorb a shot or two and prevent instant deaths from happening.

have fun and good luck!

[fragile]

At 500 point levels, termagants with Devourers are very nice

[swarmy]

Down at 500pts I would keep the zoanthrope as is. It's at least some AP3 and AP1 possibly.

== HQ ==
Tyranid Prime (1) - Deathspitter, Rending Claws, Regeneration = 100 pts.

== Elites ==
Zoanthrope (1) = 60 pts.

== Troops ==
Tyranid Warrior Brood (145 pts.)
Tyranid Warrior (3) - Deathspitter, Scything Talons = 105 pts.
Tyranid Warrior (1) - Barbed Strangler, Scything Talons = 40 pts.
Hormagaunt Brood (20) = 120 pts.
Termagant Brood (15) - Fleshborer = 75 pts.

== Total ==
500 pts.

Maybe something along these lines? 12 S5 shots at BS4 if you're running the prime around with the warriors isn't too bad for shooting and a 36" large blast to maybe do some good down-field possibly. You'd have the typical stumbling blocks with warriors though: AP1-4 weapons, S8 or better weapons, being out-ranged, being out-classed in melee quite often by dedicated assault armies etc...

It's your army and I recommend you play whatever you feel like; if you like warriors they're not terrible with the new wound allocation this edition. I mean, if you're out for a maxed out competitive list it may or may not cut the bacon where you play at but at the end of the day did you have fun?

[fleetofclaw]

Actually running warriors with a prime makes them quite survivable. Put your prime out front and he can hand s7 or lower shots around to the warriors with 2+ Look Out Sir rolls (no one does until everyone is down to 1 wound each), and the prime can catch s8-9 stuff if needed. Then wait to allocate to him again when he has regened his wound.

For weaponry the deathspitter + scything talons is pretty much the way to go, rending claws if you really feel like they need cc oomph or can spare the points. Give the prime lash whip+ bone sword (and deathspitter) so he can beast in cc and make challenges, and regen.


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[Lanesend]

Yeah, Warriors got much more survivable in 6th than they were in fifth.
The only thing you have to be careful of is (high strength) barrage. Wound allocation from the middle of the blast still kills multiwound models very easily.
And the prime won't help you in that case. But in 500 points that shouldn't be a big problem, I think.

[spud81]

Cheers all

Think I'll try warriors with prime probably put regeneration on as well. Still like the models and as I usually play againstmarines or dark eldar I think the the idea of out numbering them. I will probably add a tervigon and more gaunts when I up the points to 1000. Not sure what else to add? Any ideas?

[Lanesend]

Hmm,
I think that should depend on the experience you get with the army as it is. If you play with the list a couple of times, you'll find out the strengths and weaknesses of the list.

It could be that you find that in your meta the warriors are great. Then using points to load a few out with boneswords could work out very good. OTOH, the warriors might not work at all for you. In that case a bunch of devilgaunts or Hive guard could be better.

Those two are actually good in most lists, I think.

If I were you, I wouldn't set my mind yet on models you want to buy (unless you buy the models for "want to have!"). First see what works for you and what doesn't.
And of course, feel free to ask for advice here.

[elitemaster]

I had a game agains a spacewovle playing at 500 points. He made is list a little shoty and a little melee. My list was melee with very very little shoty.

My list
HQ
Prime - sword/whip, deathspitter, reg = 110

Troop
Warrioers (3) - 2x sword/whip, venom cannon, 3x scythin talons, TS = 150
Hormagaunt (12) - TS, AG 96
Hormagaunt (12) - TS, AG 96

This list is light on the swarm I know but the deathstar unit of warriors and the prime makes them deadly. When i played the space wovle player he killed all my gaunts but the warriors and prime just cut throwe his men every turne. I didnt even loss a warrior in the whole game

[rollawaythestone]

I've had a lot of success with my warriors in two small games this past week. They were quite durable with the Prime - I ended up using quite a bit of their wounds up before they were cleaned up by instant death from an Ork warboss. My prime had boneswords (that 3d6 instant death is a definite challenge winner) and Deathspitter. The warriors had Deathspitters and Barbed Strangler. They cleaned up in close combat as well. Definitely a strong core to my army for those small games. Granted, I was not facing Str 8 spam, or heavy mech.

[spud81]

Hi all,

That was my one worry that there would be too much high strength guns but with the wound allocation rules and regen i think i'll run with the warriors as my CC specialists. Just fyi the people i play against always take some sort of tank/skimmer so i thought i'd need some sort of anti tank (hence the zoanathrope) I was gonna split the force in to 2 groups warriors/horm and zoan/term the other, but if the new games are all objective based how about leaving a small unit of termgants on the home objective and sending the rest of the army off to claim the other (obviously killing everyting else).

How about?

Prime b/s & regen d/s 110

Zoanathrope 60

warrior x 4 s/t d/s b/s 145
Hormagant x 15 90
Termgant x 10 50
Termgant x 10 50

This totals 505 (usually we're pretty relaxed about being a few points over)

So i thought i could leave one brood of termgants on the closest objective then off to devour the enemy. If I time it right and the whole army hits at once? Probably best to lead with the termgants and let them take the overwatch shots? and the horm hit home with the hammer of wrath extra hits?? I know its a bit of a point and shoot army but even if the little bugs get shot the warriors should wipe out anything left over especially with any extra shots i can get off?

My only problem is if the 2 broods of termgants are too small? But i suppose it depends on who i face?

Cheers all again

[rollawaythestone]

Your Termagants need to remain in synapse or they will Lurk. Which could be a problem if the backfield objective isn't near terrain.

[spud81]

Yeah good point maybe if the objective isnt in terrain then i'll have them move up with the rest of the army just means i'd have to wipe my opponent out or try and get the other objective in stead.

Cant see any other way at this lower points level tho?

Cheers

[rollawaythestone]

If you are placing objectives, you could also place the back-field one next to area terrain.

[spud81]

Yeah good idea bit sneaky but worth it!

Might drop the other brood of termgants and make the horms bigger?