9 Carnifexes

[squidy]

Everybody gives the Carnifex beef. Heck, I give it beef.

I just don't understand why people at my hobby shop say fielding 9 fexes would be effective. Maybe it is, but the 2 major problems I see with it are:

1. Its so expensive you don't have any points to field anything else effective.

2. Imperial Guard do it better (or so I think).

So, has anyone tried this? Do guard do it better, about the same or less? Do other armies blast it so bad on the way in that your entire force gets screwed? Just curious because I've never done it and people always give the fex beef except a few people who don't play Tyranids.

[hyv3mynd]

Not the best idea unless you're playing 2500+pts.

It leaves you nothing left for scoring or support. It leaves you with potentially the slowest army in the game. An army with disposable units or transports can block you turn after turn. You might win "Purge The Alien" missions but probably not much else.

You could probably make something work with 6 fexes, but 9 tips it way off balance.

[squash]

Hmm, interesting.

1 Tyranid Prime, Deathspitter - 85

1 Tyranid Prime, Deathspitter - 85

10 hormagants - 60

10 hormagaunts - 60

3 Dakkafex - 570

3 Dakkafex - 570

3 Dakkafex - 570

2000

Yeah I think you'll lose a ton of games, just a ton. But man, I'd love to see 108 twin-linked brainleech shots firing.

[fragile]

LOL i may try that in 1750 with 6 fexes

[zephoid]

i think you could throw 3 tervigons and 9 fexes into 2500. It was the joke list for ard boys. FnP the fexes and just walk up the board. Now with primes with regen, you could do just as well with 6 fexes, 2 tervigons, 2 primes, and some elites.

[hyv3mynd]

You'll want termagants instead of hormagaunts so when they fail instinctive behavior they can lurk on an objective instead of feed and run off.

Maybe one unit with HVC's, one with dakka, and one with scytals if you want to get serious with it.

[squash]

Aug 3, 2012 0:14:12 GMT hyv3mynd said:

You'll want termagants instead of hormagaunts so when they fail instinctive behavior they can lurk on an objective instead of feed and run off.

Maybe one unit with HVC's, one with dakka, and one with scytals if you want to get serious with it.

That was my original thought, but then I realized that this list has no chance of holding objectives anyway under most circumstances, so I figured why not run the hormagaunts behind the carnifex to lend a charge when the Carnifex get tarpitted.

Consider this though:

Carnifex can hold points in Big Guns Never Tire, and the enemy will have a hard time wiping out an entire unit of carnifexes for the heavy support point.

This list has a huge advantage in Purge The Alien, being essentially kill points.

So 1/3 mission types are beneficial to the Carnifex. Of course the other 2/3s of the time this list is royally screwed.

[Talonis]

You dont run off with rage anymore,

I had a lot of success the other year running 3 Fex's with CC. The rest of the list was built to support it though.

Seeing that many Fex's would be pretty epic, and with a few Tervigons added would make one hell of a MC list! As for tarpitting, who would want to charge into 36 twin linked S6 overwatch shots!

You probably would want to throw in some Bioplasma too, just to add some extra close up firepower to deal with 2+ models.

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Carnifexen*

[wisdomseyes1]

Aug 3, 2012 0:44:59 GMT @60mm said:

Carnifexen*

Off topic: a carnifex can be many things plural. Most likely the plural of carnifex is carnifex (I have a brood of carnifex, a carnifex brood, or really however you want to say it)

Carnifexen just sounds more fun.

On topic: squash pointed out what is basically the minimum points you can take 9 carnifex in. 2000 points and then barebones HQ units that actually make 2 of the broods scary survivable and then 2 troops which if die you lose in 5 out of 6 games. Actually... If you tried very hard you could get slay the warlord, behind enemy lines, and maybe first blood (not likely) then aim for a primary goal of keeping opponents off objectives and killing them off, and you could possibly win the game... But it wouldn't really be all that effective and we all know why

[squash]

Yeah, as Wisdom said, it would be incredibly difficult to win most of the mission requirements.

I also wouldn't even consider something like this without two primes, I consider the primes mandatory for this.

[Talonis]

You could always try to just kill all your opponents troops too... Leaving you all on an even playing field

[fleetofclaw]

I would at most do two broods of three with a prime in there to hand wounds around with LOSir, and Tervigons / zthropes throwing endurance on them. Each brood with 15 wounds, FNP, It Will not Die, and regen on the prime. Egad. I will probably try at least one devilfexstar pretty soon.

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[wisdomseyes1]

While 9 isn't realistic, 3-6 might be, sort of, giving you more stable troops (tervigons, you can 2 of them for the points you save by just dropping 3) and have the prime and fexen be pseudo deathstars. With the look out sir, it will effectively (assuming they all boasts the look out sir and are hit from the front) take 12 unsaved wounds to down 1 fex, and maybe more if you give the prime regeneration to pull some of those wounds back. And of course endurance/catalyst from the tervigons would further their survivability.

Just... 9. I wonder what it was like back in 4th where you could take 9 and still have an army to back it up

[WestRider]

The 4th Ed Dex maxed out at 6, 3 HS, 3 Elite.

I'm looking at 3-4 DakkaFexen in my 2K List, depending on my HQ choices and whether or not I want to run a T-Fex. Either 3 singles along with a couple of Dakka Tyrants/Flyrants or 2 Broods of 2, each with a Prime attached.