competitive 2k fmc

[ralphinator]

This is a list I drew up (with help) as an attempt at a competitive nid list. For lower point values (1750, 1500) I would use the same template but drop a few models as needed. Thoughts, suggestions, criticism?

Hq 490
Flyrant, tl devourers, lw bs 245

Flyrant, tl devourers, lw bs 245

Elite 300
2 hive guard 100

2 hive guard 100

2 hive guard 100

Troop 690
Tervigon ag ts 180

Tervigon ag ts 180

Tervigon ag ts 180

10 termagants 50

10 termagants 50

10 termagants 50

Fast attack 510
Harpy, hvc 170

Harpy, hvc 170

Harpy, hvc 170

1990

Tossing around ideas on what to do with 10 points, probably end up taking 2 more gaunts.

[reallysorry]

This looks like the type of list I started to play this edition with. I proxied the Harpies to see if they'd be good enough to convert. They didn't perfom that good and I switched them one by one to the point that my list contained 0 Harpies in the end.
Crushing Claws and 3 Psy powers on the Tervigons is the way to go for me and also Regen on the Flyrants.

[wisdomseyes1]

Not a single catalyst on any of the tervigons? Why? If you want to increase their survival rate an the survival rate of the army as a whole I would think that would be the best option? Makes your MC's tough to deal with and your gants more fun against bolters.

I would honestly use the harpy if HVC were assault 1, not blast. It would make them so much more consistent. And now they can't hit fliers with that either. With 6 give guard and 2 flyrants, your transport popping is covered. HVC for landraiders and close combat if nececery?

I am honestly only really conserned about the lack of catalyst, and the reasoning beyond point constraints for non-dual devourers. Are you exchanging for psychic powers? Biomancy being likely. And do you believe you need the AG on the tervigon when it itself doesn't benefit, an the gants likely won't benefit and if they do it will be a shock (implies transports make it though the barrage of fire and also made it across the board, or your 10 man unit made it across the board with your tervigon following shortly behind)

[ralphinator]

I always roll biomancy powers for my psykers. I used to run 2xtldev for flyrants, but prefer lashwhips when i want to land and challenge a character to assassinate it, as well as the possibility I will either get smite or haemorrage, or I'm able to vector strike. Dropping AG on the tervs makes sense, agreed. I may find room for more powers, though I'm not sure about crushing claws as of yet.

[wisdomseyes1]

I think crushing claws would be a bit expensive if you want to keep the flying mc theme. That said, harpies ae going to hurt to evy bolters which got a whole lot more popular this edition. Armor 4 is just... Urg. I assume they will be gliding the entire time which means their armor will only come up on shots turn 1 if you go second (or lucky shots from high volumes of fire)

I mostly just like the catalyst, because where your lists stands, gliding MC's all around are going to make the opponent have less desire to shoot them and more to shoot your tervigons. Or your gants. Heck either. Now, that likely won't be an issue with your MC's just blasting away their threats, but it is somethig to consider. And catalyst also functions as an anti grounded test, because tyrants CAN NOT deal with grounded tests without some extreme luck. At 4 wounds, S9 wounds for being hit is just insane, and it's not unrealistic to say rapid fire bolters became the bane of a flyrant, since they were unlikely to get a wound anyway

[hyv3mynd]

Gliding = jump. Swooping = flying. If you're gliding every turn you're doing it wrong.

I would go full devourers on both tyrants. They die fast when they land so constant swooping + dakka is the way to go. Even if you want to land to assault, they'll get the job done without the lash whip. Add OA for rerolling 1's.

With dual flyrant and all those hive guard, I would go with STC and cluster spines on the harpies for anti-infantry/horde.

[wisdomseyes1]

Aug 3, 2012 18:50:19 GMT hyv3mynd said:

Gliding = jump. Swooping = flying. If you're gliding every turn you're doing it wrong.

Mixed up the names, for some reason I had "swooping" and "diving" in the same slot of terminology.

For future posts, as stupid as it will sound, I'll just say "fast mode" becaus to this day I confuse combat an cruising speed and people get annoyed with me on that as well (so I usually just say the distance)