1500 Tyranid Reserve list

[elitemaster]

Hey guys this is my 2ed list I have posted. This is I fill is a pretty strong list. Its been in only one battle and lost by one point but the army I was fighting was a Dark Angle with 3 5 man sqauds of Terminators with 2 IC (I dont know who they are), a Landradier, Land Speeder, and a Preditor. At the end of the game all he had left ons 2 squads of Termainators one with 1 guy and the othre with 2 and the Land Radier. i still had a good amout of my guys left.

Here is the list

HQ:

Flyrant 2x TL devourer, hive commander, wings, regeneration = 205
Prime sword/whip, deathspitter, reg, TS= 120

Troops:

10 Termagants devours = 100
15 Termagants fleshborer= 60
12 Hormagaunts TS, AG= 120
12 Hormagaunts TS, AG= 120
4 Warriors 3x sword/whip, 3x deathspitter, scything talons, venom cannon, TS = 215

Elite:

8 Ymgarl Genestealers = 184
8 Ymgarl Genestealers = 184
Venomthrope = 55

Fast Attack

3 Shrike 3x scything talons, 2x deathspitter, venom cannon = 130

I do plan on making a battle report with this list some time this week or next week. So what do you guys think

[wisdomseyes1]

What exactly is the "reserves" portion of this list? The tyrant and stealers? (which by the way I don't think the tray t can deepstrike anymore. FMC move like jump units, but they don't gain jump units special rules which includes deepstriking. If someone else can find evidence to support otherwise, please do)

I am confused as to how this list is supposed to function.

[elitemaster]

Opps srrry i forgot lol.

The Flyrant wil be in reserve and fly up to the front.

Termagants with devours will out flank due to hive commander

Both Genestealers will be sleepying

The Shrikes will deep strick in on the enemy.(not sure if they can)

On the first turn every thing moves up if something is in rang then i will shot with it. On the next turn all my resesrves come in on a 2+ so theres a good changs that everything will come in. The Flyrant swoop up to the rest of my forces. The Genestealers will be spleey next to the enmeies units or bases to make a rude suprise and most likly get into CC. The Devilgants will out flank and get to shoot at and enemy with lots of shots killing a few. the Shrikes deep stricks in next to enemy units and give off 9 S 5 shots. The point of the 4 units poping in next to the enemy untis is to get him to foces on them and not my main force well it keeps moving up and getting closer to assault his units who all ready have 4 units of nids around him

[scrotatohead]

If I understand your list right you'll have the Prime, Warriors, fleshborer Termies, Hormagants, and Venomthrope active on the board turn one. Everything else comes in via Reserves rules. I'm not sure what other armies are played in your area but I've got a couple concerns. Assuming your Prime is attached to the Warriors, you can play wound allocation shennanigans a little, but Warriors fall easilly to T8 insta-kill, and you don't have any other targets for your opponents high toughness, low-AP weapons, so the warriors are going to be the target round one.

The Venomthrope cover bonus is good but not great. I'd trim your ymgarl squads by a couple models. Eight is just overkill and would most likely leave them exposed during your opponent's turn which means they'll get shot up pretty good. Lose the 'thrope and pick up at least two Hive Guard. It may be 6th edition and vehicles drop to rends now, but Hive Guard harpoons are still extremely reliable and when fired from cover/LOS blocking terrain, are our best option when your opponent advances his walkers and other meq. Sure, you've got some up close rending abilities as is, but until reserves show up you've got no ranged AT to speak of.

A brood of three Shrike is very, very small. With a 5+ save their survivability is questionable and if you lose even one your impact is dramatically reduced. Consider swapping out for a nice fat brood of toxic gargoyles. If you want to keep the Shrike swap out a brood of hormies for Gargoyles. Use them to screen the Shrike. If any are lucky enough to survive into close combat they get Hammer of Wrath on the assault which is a nice bonus.

[elitemaster]

I see what your saying how the warriors will be the first target the enemy will shot at hwo they can be ID from str 8 guns. the way i go around this is putting the prime in front so only str 10 guns will ID him. The thrope is what every shots at first cuz they dont like the idea of my guys moving at full speed to them and get a cover save from there shotting. Yes I do have lots of ymgarl in one brood and i was thinking of making them 5 to 6 man broods. I only have one hive guard and no gargoyles in my army right now and I only have 8 warrior modles and Im using all 8 of them in this army. The ymgarl dont get shot at from the enemy cuz ones they show up the get in an assault and they stay in the assault till the end of the enemies turn most of the time