1000 point list help

[vandalus]

So, this list is a working progress but I woudn't mind a bit of help so here goes....

HQ
Hive Tyrant
Scything Talons
lash whip and bonesword
Wings
total:230

Troops
Tervigon
Adrenal Glands
Toxin sacs
Total:180

Tervigon
Adrenal glands
Toxin sacs
Total:180

Termagents x 10

Termagents x 10

Hormaguants x 13
toxin sacs

Hormaguants x 13
toxin sacs

Elites
Hive Guard Brood x 2

[picklesuprise88]

Hello, fellow newbie of Tyranids!
First things first, GENESTEALERS!!!! they are some of the best units of tyranids. Next if you can, make your flyrant a regular hive tyrant with Lash Whip, Bone Sword, and Heavy Venom Cannon. I would also reccomend getting rid of most of the termagants, the tervigon will just spawn more. Or at least make them one squad. maybe a Doom of Malan'Tai w/ a mycetic spore would be good too. gotta love da brain sucking!

This is my list right now.

HQ
Hive Tyrant LW, BS, and HVC

Elites
Hive guard 1 model (getting more soon)

Troops
Termagants- Toxin Sacs
18 models

Hormagaunts- Toxin Sacs
12 Models

Genestealers
8 models

Dedicated transport
Mycetic spore
1 model

Heavy Support
Trygon Prime
1 model


So my usual method is having my trygon and genestealers deep-strike and my hormagaunts take my mycetic spore. Everything else stays back and shoots. Although they occasionly go in for the kill.

So, Thats all. this was an extremley long post.

[creep]

Wow really great advice... sounds kinda like

Yo man Y U need dat?
Better do like do I.
Yolo/SWAG something like that.

My advice is to ignore most of the specific advice.
General objective advice is what you can work with.

so keep in mind:
Its 1000 points so cutting down a 1750list - if you did that - might not work.
Who does real damage in your list?
I just see a flying Hive Tyrant that has to land and will die in Combat or shooting.
Assuming your tyrant dies in turn 1, what could you do? Wouldn't that break your neck?
What are the Hormagaunts for if you already have 2 Tervs + loads of Termagants, remember its 1000 points. 2 Tervs are enough for 1750 lists as well you might want to replace the Hormagants for another kind of punch e.g. buying 3 psychic powers adding crushing claws, removing adrenalin on the Tervigons.
2 Tl devourers + Old Adversary cost quite something, but this way you can still hurt badly in CC + have some decent shooting.

Hive guard is nice and like many other things "the more the merrier" if you decide to drop some Hormies it wouldn't be a bad idea to add some more.

[vandalus]

first things first, im not a newbie as such, and genestealers have been downed by 6th ed for they cant outflank and assualt so that sucks, cause usually have 9 genes with broodlord. also, u need 1 termagent squad for each tervigon in yo army that has troops choice. I do agree with not enogh firepower, goin to add some gargoyles to get line breaker and also needing more killing units. More hive guard sounds good but, I am going to need some assualt units so some ymgarl genes i might add. My flying hive tyrant is staying for it flys over to a tank and says "hello chew toy" and is killied immediatly

[wisdomseyes1]

vandalus: most people won't assume your new because you have 20 posts, don't worry. There are some people who translate "posts" as "skill"

Moving on though, genestealers normal use as a killing machine was hit, brood lords got better a bit with access to psychic powers.

@picksuprise88: that spire in your list has to be assigned to somethin before game and that unit it's assigned to has to take it.

[vandalus]

Alright, I have played a few games and learnt some new stuff and made a new list. The linebreaker special rule is definetly worth using and I will be Using it in a lot more of my games. BTW I have a question. Would mycetic spores count as being able to use the linebreaker special rule? Here is my list:

HQ
Flyrant
Twin linked devourers

Troops
Tervigon
Adrenal g
toxin s

Termagent x 10

fast atk

Gargoyle x 17

Gargoyle x 17

Tyranid shrike x 4
lash whip and bonesword
scything talons
Toxin sacs


Tervi breeds guys and holds objectives easily while gargys, shrikes and flying beatstick (aka Flyrant) stall them and kill stuff so they dont get objective and try and get linebreaker. Hows that?

[wisdomseyes1]

I think if it is a back line tervigon you are using, adrenal glands are waisted and you need catalyst.

I also don't particularly like vanilla gargoyles. TS or AG/TS is my prefered use for them, though i have also never taken more than 20, so if you do run them as is and find success, report back how it goes. New hammer of wrath rules make for some interesting times.

You list is very weak to vehicles. They may not be as popular anymore, but you can't dismiss them altogether.

[vandalus]

Ooh, (please do not swear) i forgot to add elites cause i have 2 hive guard.
Oooooooops. thats my tank killers as well

[Lanesend]

Hey Vandalus,

Hope I'm not mistaken about Line-breaker: That's 1 VP for a unit in the enemy deployment zone, right?

About the Drop spore: It's entry in the codex says it is never scoring, I believe. So also no line-breaker points I'm afraid.
Of course, the contents of the spore CAN score, if you can keep them alive.

[vandalus]

it is one vp

[Princelarming]

Jul 31, 2012 11:31:04 GMT Lanesend said:

About the Drop spore: It's entry in the codex says it is never scoring, I believe. So also no line-breaker points I'm afraid.
Of course, the contents of the spore CAN score, if you can keep them alive.

You'd think that, but with the new 6th ed. rules, Spores became scoring! (unless there is a FAQ part i haven't spotted...)

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The problem is that with T4 and a 4+ sv it is pretty easy for most squads to kill spores, simply Rapid Firing bolters will do the trick quite easily...

going for 200+ points in HQ is a bit of a gamble... as is 30+ Gargoyles AND Shrikes in a 1k list...

I would go for something like this:

Prime LW/BS Tox Regen
2x2 HG
Large Terma-squad (for the Prime)
Tervigon with all the trimmings
10-15 Gargoyles (tooled out...)
Maybe a Dakka-fex (for some more shooting... and maybe Prime support)