1500 Golden Throne List

[bigpig]

Heading to the Golden Throne GT next weekend and was looking for some feedback on the following list.

Tyrant; 2xBrainleech, Old Adversary, Shell

2x Hive Guard
2x Zoanthrope
6x Ymgarl

Tervigon; Claws, Toxins, Catalyst
Tervigon; Scytals, Toxins, Catalyst, Onslaught
16 Termagaunts; Devourers
11 Termagaunts; Fleshborers

Trygon
Biovore

Thoughts. I originally considered the flyrant, which I love, but I decided instead to go with a solid OA firebase of the Tyrant, Hive Guard, and maybe Zoans depending on power loadout. I'm still flexible on considering the Tyrant though, really torn. Tyrant will form core flanked by Tervigons, Zoans and HG in front, gaunts in front of that; Standard Onion approach. Trygon can pick one flank to approach down depending on threats. Biovore hides behind LOS blocking to avoid first blood and bombards troop blocks.

Ymgarls are for backfield disruption, which I may light on for this list. Their main job will be to take out the rune priest or Farseer ally.

For powers, Standard biomancy on most of the TMCs, but Zoans will flex between Telekenesis and Telepathy depending on enemy army list. 11 psychic powers.

Additional concerns. I'm wondering if I have enough "ooomph". From the games I've played of 6th, the buffed tryant and tervifexen can dish out some serious hurt to infantry and vehicles, but I don't know if its enough or dedicated hard infantry. Lastly, I am a bit dice dependant if both my tervigons poop out on first spawning.

Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

[Bot]

Well... I'm not really a fan of that Tyrant.

It is quite expensive and even though you have given it Armoured shell, it can still easily go down. If there should be any Tyrant in this (IMO at least) it should be a Flyrant. Unless of course you are willing to hatch some Tyrant guards to that Tyrant... But all in all, a Tyranid Prime would and should give this list quite some air. Stick the Prime to the Zoanthropes. The Zoanthropes doesn't have the best range in the world, they don't do very good in combat and easily die to concentrated fire... The Prime however will be able to protect them as long as he's standing in the front. Have some Gaunts withing 6" of the prime and you would be able to protect the prime from shots that would ignore his armour save or shoot he come under a lot of fire, you can take some of the pressure. Remember the prime is an Independent character, so he will succeed his "look our sir!" roles on 2+.

An extra Hive guard would always be good. They have a feared reputation so another advice would probably be to add another one of them, so you have a full Hive guard unit.

The Ymgarl unit look a little thin. With overwatch, 1-3 of them could easily die from enemy ovewatch. consider put the unit up on a size of 8 at least. Remember, Rune priests and Farseers are both Independent characters, so they could easily just hide in a unit of marines/Dire Avengers. Marines which will rapid fire you when you charge and Dire Avengers with Assault 2 weapons.

The Biovore... I don't know really... it just seems so very random. Perhaps removing it to give you a little extra points to work with.

Lastly, I am a bit dice dependant if both my tervigons poop out on first spawning.

Please don't tell me that you are thinking of spawning Termagants turn 1.

Anyway, Good luck.

[bigpig]

Thanks for the comments, Bot. They are well received. Your comments mirrored my concerns, as well, as I was forming this list out. Maybe I'm just trying to cram too much into 1500pts. Having only one local level tourney under my belt in 6th I'm not really sure what to expect on the larger scale. Zoanthrope range I'm not as concerned about because I see them as more utility in this list, and a potential OM platform if I encounter flyers. I'm wanting to stick with a tryant platform (maybe flyer) to get the double BL worms for flyer defense.

The size of the ymgarls concerned me as well. I may be better off just to swap them out for something else. I do need backfield disruption though. My larger tourney lists in 5th relied on fast movers and outflanking stealers for this. At the end of 5th a tried a swarm list at GT that was light on disruption and I suffered from it. Perhaps swapping to doom in pod? or finding a way to put the zoans in pod also? A flyrant would grant me backfield reach as well.

As far as spawning turn 1; Never say never, but I ususally don't. Sometimes I don't spawn till 3 or 4. It just depends on the tactical need for bubble wrap and objective holders. Mission matters too. The chance of early menopause is just too great to spawn "just because"