Funniest Chaos Demon List (abuse of 6th ftw)

[zephoid]

From Dakka Dakka by Jabbdo

Jabbdo said:

Ok, so I thought of this a joke to begin with, but then realized its actually pretty powerful:

Epidemius 110
Herald of Nurgle, Aura of Decay 85

(15) Plaguebearers, Chaos Icon 250
(15) Plaguebearers, Chaos Icon 250
(10) Plaguebearers 150
(10) Plaguebearers 150
(7) Plaguebearers 105
(6) Plaguebearers 90

(12) Screamers 192
(12) Screamers 192
(12) Screamers 192

Big Mek, bosspole 40
(30) Grots, 4x Runtherd 120

Aegis Defence line, Comms relay 70

= 1996

Looks like complete gak, right? Lots of Plaguebearers who won't do (please do not swear), a pile of Screamers, and some random Grots.

Well, wait for it, it gets better. A lot better

Split your waves like this:
Epi+Herald of Nurgle+1x15 PB, 2x10 PB, 2x Screamers
1x15 PB, 1x7 PB, 1x6 PB, 1x Screamers

Deploy your Grots around the Aegis line for cover saves. Hope for the right wave. If you get the wrong one, oh well, you've got a rerollable 3+ for Epi next turn.

When Epi comes in, proceed as follows:

DS his squad near the Grots. Move the Grots into a clump near him and the Herald, try to get them all within 6" of both of them (they should be on the edge of the PB unit). Activate Aura of Decay on both Epi and the Herald, causing str2 hits on every enemy model within 6". Yes, the Grots count as enemy models

Kill around 25 Grots on average. You now have maximum Tally, so your PB's now wound on 2+ in CC, ignore armor saves, and have a 3+ FnP against EVERYTHING except str10. Charge forward, profit. (Remember to run the surviving Grots out of 6" from Epi's squad, so on a roll of 1 don't stand around doing nothing.)

The Screamers are there to break vehicles. You PB's will murder anything else.

Sure, Flyers are hard to deal with, just camp objectives and roll saves. If you're placing KP's, you can just concede

I'd actually like to try this out, as not many armies can deal with (essentially) 63 THSS running at them. (t5 5++ 3+ FnP is around as effective as t4 2+ against torrent, against high str/low AP the PB's are far better. They wound on 2+ in CC at ap2, but get to strike at i2 ) Don't get me wrong, this isn't the greatest list ever, but it would sure be awesome to play with

So, what do you guys think? Is this "The gak" or just plain old gak? D

Source: www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/463220.page


Holy hell i cant stop myself laughing from this. It works... and is probably the biggest abuse of 6th i can think of but man, this is creative.

[gloomfang]

It is up there. The other one is using Mad Dok Grotsnik as an ally to give everyone in your army a 5+ Invuln. Not all Battle Brothers, not all friendly models. Everyone in your army. It costs some points, but it can get real sick real fast.

[wisdomseyes1]

Im doing this now.

[maeloke]

I'm unfamiliar with the rules being used here. What's the mechanic that ends up making plaguebearers so sick?

[reallysorry]

If Epidemius dies though everything is lost. Not a bad idea but all the enemy has to do is focus on Epidemius and once he's dead everything else is dead also

[paxmiles]

That list is horrible against any vehicles...not to mention just about anything with shooting. I see the screamers, but being 1-wound models with a 4+ save I can say with confidence that they won't survive long enough to be reliable.

Even with epidemius, you have to be able to kill things first in order to gain any of his abilities...

Army is also completely unable to attack flyers.
-Pax

[bebe]

I'm definitely going to try this out at 1500. Epi is an IC. Hide him in a squad of PBs. Having PBs wounding on 2+ with a 3+ FNP against anything not Str10 is epic. I would modify it for 1500 a lot though.

- Plague Bomb -

Epidemius 110
Herald of Nurgle, Aura of Decay , Noxious Touch, Breath of Chaos 105

(10) Plaguebearers, Chaos Icon 175
(10) Plaguebearers, Chaos Icon 175
(10) Plaguebearers 150
(10) Plaguebearers 150
(7) Nurglings 91

(4) Screamers 64
(4) Screamers 64
(4) Screamers 64

Weirdboy Warphead 85

(29) Grots, (2) Runtherd 107

(3) Big Gunz , (3) Kannons, (3) Gun Krew, (8) Gretchin), Runtherder 85

Aegis Defence line, Comms relay 70

- 1500 -

I cannot really hurt fliers with this bur they cannot really hurt me either. Everything is coming in turn two. I would use a DP for sure and add one in for 1750. I also prefer the warphead as HQ in this list. Maybe I'll get some good rolls. I don't know why he has so may screamers and why he configured his grots the way he did. I'm going to have to look at my daemons and see if I have enough PBs.

[zephoid]

Currently the only fliers that can actually do anything against this list are necrons. Every other flier simply cant deal with a 5+/3+ save on T5 models.

Epidemius is probably with a squad of bearers meaning hes kind of hard to dislodge. He is an IC, so he can change squad to squad if one gets focused. Hes also 3+/3+ T5 3W so hes hard to kill himself.

Getting the kills isnt the problem. Read the description. You kill all of the grots and get an average of 25 kills on turn 1.

you have 36 screamers. Since disordered charging doesnt hurt this list at all, you simply last into a whole formation of vehicles with 2 squads. Screamers are very fast and stopping them from charging is very hard when you have that much stuff on the ground. Also, with the reduction in transport-heavy lists in 6th you dont need them as much. Finally, 1 squad of that many screamers can surround a transport vehicle and kill it pretty darn easy meaning quite a lot of the passengers will not be able to disembark.

maeloke, read epidemius's rules in the demon codex. The more stuff nurgle units kill, the stronger all nurgle units get.

[paxmiles]

Jul 19, 2012 19:35:01 GMT bebe said:

Aegis Defence line, Quad Autocannons, Comms relay 120

Aegis line can't take weapons and the comms relay. Re-read it's entry in the book. "add one of the following:"

Bastion is the same.
-Pax

[reallysorry]

This guy is making a huge deal out of an abuse list which is not that good imho.

[bebe]

Aegis line can't take weapons and the comms relay. Re-read it's entry in the book. "add one of the following:"

I'm half asleep it seems. I modified the list.

This guy is making a huge deal out of an abuse list which is not that good imho.

It's a pretty good list. I would just add some Ork dakka for fliers at 1750+.

[reallysorry]

It's an ok list and funny but it's far from unbeatable.

[gloomfang]

Jul 19, 2012 18:48:16 GMT maeloke said:

I'm unfamiliar with the rules being used here. What's the mechanic that ends up making plaguebearers so sick?

Epidemius is the Tally Man of Nurgle. If he kills 20 models all units with the Mark of Nurgle get a 3+ FNP.

This list abuses the fact he has an aura that causes all units within to take a toughness check (like the power the Tervigon has) or take a wound. The grots are T2. He fills his Tally and gives the boost.

He can do this to the grots becasue even though there are in his army they are not friendly models.

[coredump]

Chill folks, he isn't claiming it will win NOVA, it is a funny gimmicky list meant to exploit a loophole.

[reallysorry]

Well sure but saying that the only fliers, that can actually do anything against this list, are Necrons is untrue.