1850 Mycetic Devourer Spam

[scootare]

I have been on this board just viewing and this is my first post.
I have 30,000 Points of nids for apoc with 600+ models and 13 titans. (Custom Norn Queen+3 Hierophant+3 Harridan+6 Sythed Hierdules....Yeah I have had a bug problem for many many years.
I should post some pics for yaal.

After reading a ton and playing a few non bug games with my other armies I am playing a competative game Friday night versus space wolves for 1850.

What do you guys think of this list? Yeah its spammy...
The spores have heavy venom cannons to take out light vehicles and i am confident they will be ignored. (Ripper+Venom Cannon...all S6 for Rhino/Razors) The tyrants have a single heavy venom cannon as well. I have fear of land raider on the board knowing this guy. I could see the Tyrants goign to foot versus vehicles after turn three to open them up for devourer+doom shots.

Strategy would be lurk with the tyrants in cover turn one and turn 2 alpha strike with on average 5 of the mycetics coming down. If I cant destroy all his basic troops with 80 devourer shots and likely 4 groups of them with re rolls I would be surprised. Doom in there too.....

I am thinking Biomancy on the Tyrants...


1850 Pts - Tyranids Roster

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 340 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant, 340 pts (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Bonded Exoskeleton; Synapse Creature; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x1; Heavy Venom Cannon; Hive Commander; Old Adversary; Regeneration; Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxysm)

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 315 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant, 315 pts (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Bonded Exoskeleton; Synapse Creature; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x1; Heavy Venom Cannon; Old Adversary; Regeneration; Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxysm)

Troops: Termagant Brood (16#, 210 pts)
15 Termagant Brood, 210 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Venom Cannon)

Troops: Termagant Brood (16#, 210 pts)
15 Termagant Brood, 210 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Venom Cannon)

Troops: Termagant Brood (16#, 210 pts)
15 Termagant Brood, 210 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Venom Cannon)

Troops: Termagant Brood (16#, 210 pts)
15 Termagant Brood, 210 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Venom Cannon)

Troops: Termagant Brood (15#, 200 pts)
14 Termagant Brood, 200 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Venom Cannon)

Elite: The Doom of Malan'tai (2#, 150 pts)
1 The Doom of Malan'tai, 150 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Claws & Teeth; Reinforced Chitin; Instinctive Behaviour - Feed; Absorb Life; Fearless; Psychic Strength; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; Spirit Leech; Warp Field; Cataclysm)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Venom Cannon)

Validation Report:
c-1. File Version: 1.47 For Bug Reports/www.ab40k.org; b-1. Roster Options: Imperial Armour, Named or Special Characters; a-1. Scenario: Normal Mission; Hive Selection: Standard Roster
Roster satisfies all enforced validation rules

Composition Report:
HQ: 2 (1 - 2)
Elite: 1 (0 - 3)
Troops: 5 (2 - 6)
Fast: 0 (0 - 3)
Heavy: 0 (0 - 3)

Total Roster Cost: 1845

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[scootare]

Flavor 2 of the list.
Switch weapons to dual Devourer on the Flyrants.
Switch Mycetic Spores to Cluster Spines for more anti troop.
Add in 3 Zoanthropes for the anti AV 12+

PLaying a space wolf player I have fear of Njall Stormcaller though with the Zoa's.
3+ dispell 24" range can give you a bad time!

1850 Pts - Tyranids Roster

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 330 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant, 330 pts (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Bonded Exoskeleton; Synapse Creature; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2; Hive Commander; Old Adversary; Regeneration; Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxysm)

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 305 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant, 305 pts (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Bonded Exoskeleton; Synapse Creature; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; TL Devourer w/Brainleech Worms x2; Old Adversary; Regeneration; Wings; Leech Essence; Paroxysm)

Troops: Termagant Brood (13#, 170 pts)
12 Termagant Brood, 170 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Cluster Spines)

Troops: Termagant Brood (13#, 170 pts)
12 Termagant Brood, 170 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Cluster Spines)

Troops: Termagant Brood (13#, 170 pts)
12 Termagant Brood, 170 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Cluster Spines)

Troops: Termagant Brood (13#, 170 pts)
12 Termagant Brood, 170 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Cluster Spines)

Troops: Termagant Brood (12#, 160 pts)
11 Termagant Brood, 160 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Chitin; Claws & Teeth; Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk; Move Through Cover; Devourer)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Cluster Spines)

Elite: Zoanthrope Brood (4#, 230 pts)
3 Zoanthrope Brood, 230 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Claws & Teeth; Reinforced Chitin; Synapse Creature; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; Warp Field; Warp Blast; Warp Lance)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Cluster Spines)

Elite: The Doom of Malan'tai (2#, 145 pts)
1 The Doom of Malan'tai, 145 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Claws & Teeth; Reinforced Chitin; Instinctive Behaviour - Feed; Absorb Life; Fearless; Psychic Strength; Psyker; Shadow in the Warp; Spirit Leech; Warp Field; Cataclysm)
1 Mycetic Spore (Unit Type: Monstrous Creature; Hardened Carapace; Lash Whip; Ripper Tentacles; Deep Strike; Fearless; Immobile Pod; Limited Sentience; Transport Spore; Barbed Strangler)

Validation Report:
c-1. File Version: 1.47 For Bug Reports/www.ab40k.org; b-1. Roster Options: Imperial Armour, Named or Special Characters; a-1. Scenario: Normal Mission; Hive Selection: Standard Roster
Roster satisfies all enforced validation rules

Composition Report:
HQ: 2 (1 - 2)
Elite: 2 (0 - 3)
Troops: 5 (2 - 6)
Fast: 0 (0 - 3)
Heavy: 0 (0 - 3)

Total Roster Cost: 1850

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[Jabberwocky]

It's incredibly hard to read the army list with every basic biomorph and special rule listed.

[coredump]

Yeah, assume folks here are pretty well versed in 'bug language' and just use a truncated version of what you are getting.

number in brood, and optional biomorphs are usually plenty.

Welcome to The Hive.

[scootare]

I would never insult your guys intelligence...
Its just the output army builder puts out.
Next time I post a list I will put it in a word doc and clean out the BS you guys dont need to see...

[clobbersaurus]

I'd go with list 2, but switch cluster spines for tl-ds. I've played a similar list, you want to get your pods as close to rear or side armor as possible. I've wrecked rhinos with the pod alone and forced the units to disembark then shot with termagants.

[maeloke]

That must be one of the spammiest, shootiest nid armies I've seen on here. If I can read it correctly...

Hive Tyrant, HC, OA, Wings, TL Dev, HVC, Regen - 340 pts
Hive Tyrant, OA, Wings, TL Dev, HVC, Regen - 315 pts
Doom + Spore w/ VC - 150 pts
15x Devgants + spore w/ VC = 210 pts.
15x Devgants + spore w/ VC = 210 pts.
15x Devgants + spore w/ VC = 210 pts.
15x Devgants + spore w/ VC = 210 pts.
14x Devgants + spore w/ VC = 200 pts.

(Gosh that's so much easier to understand)

At 1850, you can be tabled pretty easily by heavy weapons fire on turn 1 - only your tyrants can start on the board, and once they're dead, you've lost.

Between this and that apoc list you posted, I've noticed you tend to really, really pile on the biomorphs. Maybe in such huge games its less of an issue, but for smaller ones you seem to be wasting a lot of points on less-than-essential addons. These cost you a lot in numbers, in an army that's best when it's swarmy.

Here, you've spent 100 points on venom cannons for the famously accurate mycetic spores. Which will be firing at the closest targets in the enemy back lines, right where all your troops are landing. When those s6 templates scatter, you're looking at a lot of vaporized gants.

On the subject, devilgants are hilarious in small numbers, but this many gives your army the resilience of tin foil. A few blast templates will wipe you out, as will any assault unit in the game.

Last thing: your only real answer to AV11+ is your tyrants.

In short: This looks funny for a single game, but terrible in any competitive scenario. List #2 does not improve much, except for the armor issue - but it costs you even more in numbers.

[roxor08]

You could consider switching all the VC to TL-DS. Improves the hits on your Spores and reduce the chances of hurting your gants.

[paxmiles]

I picture list having issues with any good AV targets. That Fortress of Redemption, will give you a real run for your money. It counts as 4 AV14 buildings and features a lascannon with skyfire and a long range ordnance barrage weapon.

On the other hand, with changes to scoring units requiring models to be out of transports and out of buildings in order to count, this list might be fine.

Would strongly suggest not relying on flyrants to get anything done. Between grounding tests and the fact that they are huge and not very durable, I don't consider the flyrant to be very useful as a lone flyer. Especially when them and the doom are your only synapse...
-Pax

[greatescape13]

Jul 17, 2012 16:45:16 GMT maeloke said:

At 1850, you can be tabled pretty easily by heavy weapons fire on turn 1 - only your tyrants can start on the board, and once they're dead, you've lost.

Exactly. You better be hiding those Tyrants well.

If you want to do this list, make sure to buy a Fortification that is so large that the Hive Tyrants can hide behind it on the first turn and not be targeted at all. Hehe.

I love shooty 'Nid lists, so I like the ethos. But going all drop-pod isn't as viable as it was in 5th edition.

Cheers.

[The DeathJester]

Shooting is King in this Edition, Go for it. Although it lacks Anti-Tank.

[scootare]

Good feedback.
I guess this would be a "tailored" sort of a list that would do well perhaps against Eldar/Dark Eldar where everything can be wounded by strength 4 and 6.

With so many missions with night fight in place hunkering a couple tyrants in rubble for 2+ cover saves is pretty easy with the crew I play with.

The thought behind the Venom cannons on the spores was to shoot them at tanks.
They would be virtually ignored with targets on the table.

I suppose this is a situational list....would not do well versus marines and many other armies.

I just might drop this for haha factor Friday night at our regular group game. I think i am either playing a dark eldar player or a grey knight inquisition list.

I LOVE this website I have picked up at least 5 ideas and learned things everytime I have logged in here.

[whoadirty]

I am wondering about the legality of your list with the new reserve rules and the 50% max of reserves allowed. Are Spores and their contents considered to be "mandatory" to start in Reserve and get around that rule?

[Lanesend]

Yeah, the pods MUST be reserved, so they don't count for the 50% rule.

The Flyrants however can be put on the board, so you would be allowed to put 50% of them in reserve.
However, that would leave you with only one Tyrant on the table. And if it gets taken out, you loose the game.......

[thejeanstealer]

Easy solution...

drop down to one tyrant

invest in a carnifex with 2 tl-devourers in a spore

now you can keep the tyrant in reserve as you can keep 50% (rounding up) in reserve

no more worries

love the list