What save do you get from 'Dive'?

[the6thdegree]

Had my first 6th Ed game this weekend (went extremely well - I am loving the loss of 'No Retrest' wounds and Dakkafex's ripping through Hull Points) but we got stuck on the 'Dive' rule.

I'm at work so cant quote pages - but from my understanding; if a Flying MC uses 'Dive' it uses the 'Jink' rules. 'Jink' gives a 5+ cover save or a 4+ if the model has moved Flat Out.

The problem is Flying MCs can't move Flat Out - that is for vehicles, but I believe the Flat Out rules are the same as Swooping (both must move between 12" and 24").

My interpretation is that if the Flying MC is Swooping 12"-24", then it gets a 4+ 'Dive'. However thats not RAW - what are your opinions/have I missed something?

[kurbutti]

Rules for Jink clearly state the conditions required for a 4+ save. Total distance moved does not affect. Since FMCs can't move Flat Out or Turbo-Boost, they're limited to a 5+ save. Ref: p.38, p. 49

[the6thdegree]

Cheers for that - always good to get someone elses opinion.

[Deathnid]

so sad tho

[gloomfang]

Jul 9, 2012 8:36:00 GMT kurbutti said:

Rules for Jink clearly state the conditions required for a 4+ save. Total distance moved does not affect. Since FMCs can't move Flat Out or Turbo-Boost, they're limited to a 5+ save. Ref: p.38, p. 49

I thought that Flat-out was defined as moving in your shooting phase in favor of shooting. That would be what we are used to calling a Run move, but it is still Flat-out. When I get home I'll grab my notes with the page number.

[kurbutti]

Yeah, but it says it only affects vehicles. P. 72: "A vehicle can move Flat Out instead of firing in the shooting phase..." Nowhere does it say this applies to Flying Monstrous Creatures. But that's just me.