What to get in 6E?

[retnab]

Hey all, I'm back with a quick question. I'm looking at expanding my army a bit (only have about 1500 points worth currently) and I'm torn between what to get. I only have 3 warriors and I'd like to do 5+prime, but I'm also considering gargoyle/PoM, or Raveners (I have no fast attack right now). What do you guys suggest?

Also for context, I play almost entirely against Grey Knights and tank-heavy IG, not that tanks are as much of a threat for us now!

Thanks all

[t⊗theark]

Tactically flexible zoanthropes and a favourite of mine.

The new rage rules are interesting as well in terms of feeding.

[killme304]

Gargoyles are awesome in 6th. I'd also recommend investing in a flying tyrant, as he seems to be quite powerful as well.

Raveners got a big boost (to the tune of 6" more threat range), so they should be quite good too.

Playing zoans against GK will just make you want to smash your head against a burning wall a few times. They have so much anti-psycher stuff naturally it makes me sick.

If you need some anti-tank I'd recommend Hive Guard (or a flyrant ).

[Davor]

Not knowing what you really have, I say get another Tyranid battleforce boxset. This way you will get more 3 Warriors, more Rippers, (wich we should be trying to use now, if anything for pre charges, so the enemy CAN'T Snapfire back your primary Charging army), you will have more Gaunts as well. Not sure how to use the Stealers yet, but they can always be used as "counts as" for something else if you don't want to use Stealers in your force.

Don't forget a BL can go with those Stealers now.

Not sure how to play agaisnt GK so sorry can't help you there right now.

[undeadfilth]

Gargoyles my friend. bought 60 of them when they first released in plastic(had 30 metal already) and they are an amazing investment. They are great at granting cover to your army and with preferred enemy from a flyrant(or two) they get stupid with their "on a roll of a 6 to wound I spit in your eye and auto wound you" rule.

[Davor]

Do wings on Gargs block LoS in 6th? I can't remember if I did or not.

[retnab]

I have a Tyrant and Guard, 1 Zoan (hesitating about more since GK), 1 Venom, 8 Genstealers and 1 BL, 3 Warriors, 16 Hormas, a ton of Termas, 6 Rippers, and a Biovore.

Thanks guys, and yeah I've been hearing how Gargs and Raveners are suddenly better which is why I'm definitely eyeing them. I love the look of Raveners but Gargs being able to wreck stuff with their On Hit 6 ability makes them pretty nice. I guess what it comes down to is I play against a guy who stacks the (please do not swear) out of power weapons and anti-psyker (GK) and another who plays with a ton of barrage stuff (IG), so which of those would work for them?

[undeadfilth]

Ravenors against Imps and Gargs against Gk.

[undeadfilth]

honestly, ebay and amazon are your friend. I have 13k pts of Blood Angels right now, which means I have enough options right now to not need to buy anything in order to stay competitive with them. unfortunately I had to leave my 14k of nids in oregon when I moved to ohio so I now only have between 2k and 3k

[Davor]

I say get Gargs over Raveners for one reason. Price. You get 10 Gargs so about 3$ a mini while you are paying over $16 for a Ravener. Also more wounds in a garg brood than a Ravener brood.

I don't see why I really should be buying any Raveners to field in 6th edition. (Mainly because I am sour that they are more expensive in plastic than they were in metal.)

[coredump]

OTOH, you probably need about 15 gargs for a brood, and only 4-5 raveners.

Plus, you can get almost 4 raveners out of a single box. Or use warriors and do a simple conversion.

[Davor]

How do you get 4 raveners out of a box?

[bayne]

Use the bursting-out-of-ground tail and that leaves you an extra tail to either use in a conversion or as i plan to have sticking out of the ground to represent a tunnelling Ravenor (but i wont be cheaty about los with it).

[undeadfilth]

Honestly, I love my gargs in either units of 20 or 30. I mean its only 180 pts for 30 fast and painful models of awesome. Yes, the 30 man(or bug?) squads can be a little bit unwieldy, but it scares the (please do not swear) out of your opponent to see that many winged bugs coming towards them. And it feels boss as all hell to have 90 of them on the field at one time:P My Gargoyles will blot out the sun!

[coredump]

Hey, if it works for you. But remember, it is a big nerf to multi assault now, and HoW only works in base contact. I usually find it next to impossible to get than many models all engaged in the same assault, or to get them all within 12" for the same shooting attack.